Do you think FT-86 will have automatic? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

TRD · 10-24-2009, 01:20 AM

I know FT-86 get 6speed but what about automatic?
It'll be nice what do u guys thinks?

ichitaka05 · 10-24-2009, 01:22 AM

I pray they won't. Just like S2k, but I'm pretty sure my prayer won't be heard

Shevon · 10-24-2009, 01:30 AM

Hope not

4agze · 10-24-2009, 01:37 AM

if you look closely the gauge cluster has a N im sure thats for the tiptronic transmission or hope for a dual clutch same as the LF-A

7shades · 10-24-2009, 01:42 AM

I hope not.
At least that will ensure it remains a sportscar, and out of the hands of hairdressers who are too stupid to work out what the third pedal does.
I doubt it though... There would have to be an auto of they'd be cutting out the not insubstantial poser market.

Jordo! · 10-24-2009, 01:50 AM

Uh... why would Toyota not offer an automatic? It would make more sense to just include a well geared AT option for those who want it.

Aisin, for example, has a nice 6 AT.

They could theoretically even revive (and improve on) the design of the MRS's 5 SMT without it costing too much.

For those who are opposed to the idea, what does it matter if they offer some form of AT as an option? I could see people saying "I hope not" if it was going to be the only trans offered...

Saying "I hope not" is bascially just a (somewhat snobbish) desire to make the number of people who might actually buy the car fewer -- that's not a smart strategy for Toyota.

Just get the base version -- done.

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Originally Posted by 7shades

I doubt it though... There would have to be an auto of they'd be cutting out the not insubstantial poser market.

Exactly what I'm talking about

The "you're not allowed to drive this car" attitude will hamstring their sales. Just buy the version you want with the options you want. This isn't an exclusive club -- it's a car

A 6 speed AT with tiptronic or (gasp) an improved version of the MRS' 5 speed SMT would be a smart option to offer -- period.

Offering the option will attract more buyers than it will lose.

TRD · 10-24-2009, 04:11 AM

Alot of people will be happy if this car came with automatic. I know they will buy it.

White Comet · 10-24-2009, 06:17 AM

It has to have an automatic option, as low sales to the public at large without this option will sink the car almost immediately.

Even Porsche Turbos come with automatics these days. Like it or not, it's all about the Benjamins.

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Originally Posted by 4agze

if you look closely the gauge cluster has a N im sure thats for the tiptronic transmission or hope for a dual clutch same as the LF-A

There is not even a snowball's chance in hell that the production car's interior will look even vaguely similar to that of the prototype. Everyone needs to stop thinking otherwise.

OldSkoolToys · 10-24-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Uh... why would Toyota not offer an automatic? It would make more sense to just include a well geared AT option for those who want it.

Aisin, for example, has a nice 6 AT.

They could theoretically even revive (and improve on) the design of the MRS's 5 SMT without it costing too much.

For those who are opposed to the idea, what does it matter if they offer some form of AT as an option? I could see people saying "I hope not" if it was going to be the only trans offered...

Saying "I hope not" is bascially just a (somewhat snobbish) desire to make the number of people who might actually buy the car fewer -- that's not a smart strategy for Toyota.

Just get the base version -- done.

Exactly what I'm talking about

The "you're not allowed to drive this car" attitude will hamstring their sales. Just buy the version you want with the options you want. This isn't an exclusive club -- it's a car

A 6 speed AT with tiptronic or (gasp) an improved version of the MRS' 5 speed SMT would be a smart option to offer -- period.

Offering the option will attract more buyers than it will lose.

This might sound cruel, but those people could always learn how to drive a standard. Its not very hard.

I have no sympathy either when it comes to "but shifting while talking on the cell phone" or "shifting while trying to eat something is annoying" Shouldn't be talking on the phone, shouldn't be eating.
No sympathy because I've done both of those, while shifting, in a car that doesn't have a single cupholder. =P
People wanna drive a sportscar, they should learn how to drive a standard.

/shrug, but yeah, it'll come with automatic. The only thing that sucks about that is in the future, trying to source parts from wrecked FT's. "Aww, this one was an auto." Or trying to find a second fun car. "Damn, all of them are auto's right now." blah blah blah.

Let susy chewing gum blonde hair have her auto though.

White Comet · 10-24-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

This might sound cruel, but those people could always learn how to drive a standard. Its not very hard.

Let susy chewing gum blonde hair have her auto though.

It's a necessary evil. If Susy can't (and doesn't) get her automatic, we're not going to be able to get our stick shift. I don't think auto versions take away from the enthusiast market, since they are the whole reason for offering a stick in the first place.

We'll just ostracize those who do buy the slushbox at local meets, instead.

S2KtoFT86 · 10-24-2009, 08:07 AM

Auto's ruin the experience at least for me. The S never came as an automatic and it sold really well for the first few years. If they're really wanting to revive the sports car then revive the true sports car. Autos are for bitches. Sorry.

Ground N Pound · 10-24-2009, 10:35 AM

Absolutely will have automatic. Like some of the other guys said without sales of automatic FT-86s we won't have any FT-86 to drive because it'll tank. The unknown factor is what kind of MT or DSG transmission the car will come with (standard or optional).

While I love the fact that my S2000 only came with MT, making it that much of an enthusiast only car, I'm pretty sure that Honda could have sold a lot more if it was also offered with AT.

S2KtoFT86 · 10-24-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ground N Pound

While I love the fact that my S2000 only came with MT, making it that much of an enthusiast only car, I'm pretty sure that Honda could have sold a lot more if it was also offered with AT.

Honda had a nice 10 year run with the S and only a MT. I don't think it'd be too much for this to only have a MT. I guess if it does have an AT, then it's not a purist car.

CoreDump · 10-24-2009, 11:13 AM

How about two trim levels, like Corolla SR5/GTS and Celica GT/GTS. The base model can be opted with auto while the top model comes with manual trans only. However, I wouldn't mind to have an optional DSG type trans on the top model though.

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S2KtoFT86 Resident Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2022 WR BRZ Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 0 Thanked 55 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Auto's ruin the experience at least for me. The S never came as an automatic and it sold really well for the first few years. If they're really wanting to revive the sports car then revive the true sports car. Autos are for bitches. Sorry. __________________ Gavin

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Shevon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Accord Coupe Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 319 Thanks: 26 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hope not

10-24-2009, 01:42 AM	#5
7shades Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: JZX100, AE71(gze) Location: Cairns, Australia Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hope not. At least that will ensure it remains a sportscar, and out of the hands of hairdressers who are too stupid to work out what the third pedal does. I doubt it though... There would have to be an auto of they'd be cutting out the not insubstantial poser market.

10-24-2009, 04:11 AM	#7
TRD Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Super integra Location: Earth Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alot of people will be happy if this car came with automatic. I know they will buy it.

10-24-2009, 10:35 AM	#12
Ground N Pound Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: S2K Location: Bethesda Maryland Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Absolutely will have automatic. Like some of the other guys said without sales of automatic FT-86s we won't have any FT-86 to drive because it'll tank. The unknown factor is what kind of MT or DSG transmission the car will come with (standard or optional). While I love the fact that my S2000 only came with MT, making it that much of an enthusiast only car, I'm pretty sure that Honda could have sold a lot more if it was also offered with AT.

10-24-2009, 11:13 AM	#14
CoreDump Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Protege 5 Location: California Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How about two trim levels, like Corolla SR5/GTS and Celica GT/GTS. The base model can be opted with auto while the top model comes with manual trans only. However, I wouldn't mind to have an optional DSG type trans on the top model though.

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