TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New JDM GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Curious to see what the actual changes are that Toyota made to make it ‘sharper’ and ‘more engaging’.

Bet you a dollar it’s harder rear springs. Again.

That could be a lot of fun in combination with the more granular 5-level switch for TC that will be standard equipment. Ideally you should be able to fine-tune the tail-out behavior, giving yourself a margin of safety that more closely meets situational requirements and personal preferences.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Quentin

So all those rumors, that never really made sense in the first place, about Toyota pulling the andon at the 11th hr to further differentiate from the BRZ turned out to not be true. Shocking. /s


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I'd say that is still up in the air, if something like that did happen they are obviously not going to talk about it in the rollout, and they do say that the GR will be tuned for a sharper driving experience. I'm not seeing any official production or sale date announcements yet.

[SUB-FT86]

GR86>>>BRZ

[Sport-Tech]

More GR video:

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

I'd say that is still up in the air, if something like that did happen they are obviously not going to talk about it in the roilout, and they do say that the GR will be tuned for a sharper driving experience. I'm not seeing any official production or sale date announcements yet.

[Sport-Tech]

If you are high or drunk you will find the auto-translated English CC on these GR videos (and the rollout video) hilarious.

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well that is a lot of hype for an announcement that is about as anticlimactic as you can get.

I feel exactly the same. We knew so much about what was coming and it's sort of a let down at this point. It's going to come down to whether or not you like those tear drop vents on the BRZ.

We'll have to wait for more details to understand the differences in the twins other than to rely on what was mentioned in the press release:

While engaging in friendly rivalry with the BRZ development team, TGR sought to develop a vehicle that would provide happiness to 86 fans, and realize an evolution of the 86's unique driving sensations. As a result, the new GR 86 is specially designed for sports performance, and provides direct and satisfying driving performance of the highest order.

IMHO, I think the twins should have been revealed at the same time. The only thing the delayed reveal of the GR86 has achieved is: Ho Hum, we've already seen this.

[jkamelo]

IG stancebois are complaining, but TBH, I like it.

it’s 2021 and we’re getting a new, cheap-ish, NA, RWD MANUAL sports car. I’m happy with it. 30HP bump over the previous gen and no torque dip means that this has similar power to a current-gen 86 with a header + tune + E85 (I think?).

still NA, which is refreshing in the era of turbocharged econoboxes. and it should still handle like a dream.

I genuinely like the GR86’s front end. the rear still looks like ass but the aftermarket will sort that out.

like most folks here, I prefer the previous gen, but there’s nothing stopping us from just continuing to buy those!

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by Thefalls

A translation would have been so much better for us non jap speaking crowd.

You can turn on auto-generated translation in settings (sometimes amusingly imperfect, but quite good overall).

[Sport-Tech]

The first video I posted above is actually a Lovecars production - in it, 2 of their reviewers do a driving comparison of the BRZ and GR86 on a short track. From the tidbits that can be extracted from the bizarre English CC, it appears that the differences in handling between the two are more marked than recent 1st-gen cars and are reminiscent of those found between the FRS and 86 in their first model year. The BRZ is stable and smooth with high grip; the GR86 oversteers more readily on demand and has the sharper response in transitions.

[StE92ve]

@38:49 I do like the contrast on the door panels. Since this is a JDM spec'd model, wondering what we'll get here in NA.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

The first video I posted above is actually a Lovecars production - in it, 2 of their reviewers do a driving comparison of the BRZ and GR86 on a short track. From the tidbits that can be extracted from the bizarre English CC, it appears that the differences in handling between the two are more marked than recent 1st-gen cars and are reminiscent of those found between the FRS and 86 in their first model year. The BRZ is stable and smooth with high grip; the GR86 oversteers more readily on demand and has the sharper response in transitions.

Sooooo

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well that is a lot of hype for an announcement that is about as anticlimactic as you can get.
Slightly different lights and interior trim and a different bumper. So pretty much the differences between the 86 and the BRZ that have always existed.

I still strongly dislike the side vents and running boards. There is no way the whole model line should be branded as GR since that is pure marketing bullshit.

One man's excitement is another man's disinterest

[StE92ve]

Need to know what's up with the different head units: