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Old 07-27-2017, 10:57 PM   #1
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Michelin Pilot Super Sports, couple conerns.

Hey, what's up guys!

Recently I punctured one of my tires on the sidewall and in need of a new tire. I thought instead of wasting money on one of these slippery tires, Id invest in 4 new better tires for my car.
There are literally tons of options and sizes and quite frankly kinda overwhelming, If you guys could help narrow my search I'd really appreciate!

I am mainly looking for a tire that will stick to the ground and wont let the car lose traction at all, not being able to drift is fine with me. I will only be daily driving and will never track this car...but I drive aggressively and lively daily on the road.....when safe. I only drive in the summer and never in the winter. I want the cars steering to remain the same as well as the cars agile/nimble feel. Price is not an issue.
Also what tire sizes do you guys suggest in my case?
.....I will be keeping my rims stock.

Thanks for your suggestions, much appreciated!

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I'm running a 225/45/17 PSS and I'm very pleased with them. They are my summer dailies and are pulling double duty as autocross tires.
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So guys I have decided to go with the Michelin pilot super sports. Any experience or knowledge about this type of tire?

I had a couple questions regarding these tires,
Should I go with the sizes 215/45r17 or 225/45r17? Will I lose performance or cars feel if i chose one over the other?
Also how is the tread life on these, how long can i expect to use them? I will only be daily driving them, with no drifting.
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I'm running a 225/45/17 PSS and I'm very pleased with them. They are my summer dailies and are pulling double duty as autocross tires.
I'm thinking of going with this size too bro. Any reason you choice 225 instead of 215? Feel any difference in steering or cornering?

...I only ask because I heard going with this size you will cause the car to lose its agile feel and make fast turning harder.
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You can still break traction with those tires. I use PSS in the OE size 215/45r17.
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You can still break traction with those tires. I use PSS in the OE size 215/45r17.
I'm guessing its a lot harder though?

Now I with mods like a simple catback or drop in filter its almost impossible to feel the differences. But were you able to noticed any difference after switching to the Michelin pilot super sports or the feel of driving?
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I ran Michelin PSS on my FD for a few of years. They were fine initially, but after ~18 months they lost all grip. Very strange... Replaced them with RE71R which I ran the rears down to the treadwear indicators at a single track day(!). Replaced those with Nitto NT01.

Anyway, for street tires for the S2000 I've gone back to Extreme Performance from Max Perf category for better grip and feel. Currently on Hankook RS3, would probably get RS4s today, or Dunlop ZII, or Yok AD08R. RE71R are great, but will have a shorter life vs. other Extreme Perf.

Based on my experience with MPSS, I recommend against...

On stock 7" wheels, I'd go 215/45-17
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Guys, why on earth is the stock primacy hp tires more expensive than the pilot super sports?

Aren't the stock tires suppose to be terrible with no grip?
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The stock tires aren't nearly as bad as people say they are online. Are they as good as the really good performance tires, no. Are they better than the tire most cars come with, absolutely. For people that just daily drive the car, they're actually a good tire.
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Guys, why on earth is the stock primacy hp tires more expensive than the pilot super sports?

Aren't the stock tires suppose to be terrible with no grip?
They're really good for fuel economy. I think I lost a couple of mpg once I switched out of them.
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I'm thinking of going with this size too bro. Any reason you choice 225 instead of 215? Feel any difference in steering or cornering?

...I only ask because I heard going with this size you will cause the car to lose its agile feel and make fast turning harder.
I have 17x9 wheels which I had a set of 245/40 Hankook Ventus V12's. The fitment was pretty square with the rim. I now have a set of PSS. These almost look stretched, and wish that they made them in a 255 width. My point is that in the same size, the PSS seems much skinnier than the Hankooks, whether its the same for the smaller widths, I can't say for certain. Pictures or input from the fellas above who have them would be interesting to see.

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Guys, why on earth is the stock primacy hp tires more expensive than the pilot super sports?

Aren't the stock tires suppose to be terrible with no grip?
Keep in mind the other cars these tires come on..*caugh* Prius *caugh*. They are a very efficient tire with a low rolling resistance and as stated, a very good tire for that. They were put on this car for the ability to slide and be efficient driving around. Unfortunately for most of the people who use this forum, specifically, that's not what we are looking for.
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Original equipment tires are often a bit more expensive. When it's time to replace them many people simply purchase the same tire that came on the car without considering alternatives. These people pay a premium for their lack of effort.
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I just got new tires and decided to chance some cheapies I have never heard of before because they had decent reviews on tire rack. I got the Riken ZR70 Raptors ( I think that is what they are called ). I got them in 225/45/17 because the 215's looked skinny on the stock wheels, and they were only $56 a tire. I paid less than $400 total delivered and installed at my local shop. So far they are night and day better. They don't squeal when pulling out of my office and feel confident in some of the 90 degree turns I take at 45. The 225 width makes them look a little more meaty, and I like the way the look on the stock rims lowered 1".I guess I will see how they last, but I only drive about 12 mi a day.
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So guys I have decided to go with the Michelin pilot super sports. Any experience or knowledge about this type of tire?

I had a couple questions regarding these tires,
Should I go with the sizes 215/45r17 or 225/45r17? Will I lose performance or cars feel if i chose one over the other?
Also how is the tread life on these, how long can i expect to use them? I will only be daily driving them, with no drifting.
The 225 tire will be slightly taller which may hurt gearing a little but will have a little more grip cornering. I would just get whichever is the cheaper of the 2
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