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View Poll Results: Will the Supra kill our 86/brz value?
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:57 AM   #85
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All the mkiv supra is gonna drop in price!
I'm not so sure. Have you looked at how much classic NSXs are selling for these days? If anything, the new NSX boosted the value of the original.
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The 7m head gasket issue was fixed awhile ago when Toyota found out they weren’t torque the bolts enough. The mkiii lowered, nice wheels, and big spoiler looks sick. To me that supra Make and year is reasonably price compared to mkiv. The mkiv is so over priced. I can’t wait for the new supra. All the mkiv supra is gonna drop in price!


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If anything the new Supra will increase the price of the MKIV supra. Car people miss the analog feeling of cars, so a new supra will only remind everyone how great analog cars are. Not to mention every young millennial car lover knows and lusts after MKIV supras.
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If anything the new Supra will increase the price of the MKIV supra. Car people miss the analog feeling of cars, so a new supra will only remind everyone how great analog cars are. Not to mention every young millennial car lover knows and lusts after MKIV supras.
I'm inclined to agree, although I think it depends on how techno-gizmo the new Supra becomes and how differentiated it is from the original (edit - by original I mean the fourth generation). I've observed that RX-7 and NSX prices have increased since their RX-8/new NSX followups, where as 300ZX prices did not seem to change a whole lot with the 350Z's appearance. I'm not sure how MR2 prices were impacted by the MR2 Spyder but my guess would be that they were not.

Toyota could make the same engineering ______ (with ______='marvels' or 'mistakes', depending upon how you view cars) that Honda made with the NSX, ultimately yielding a car with so little resemblance to its predecessor that it may or may not attract completely different buyers.

The Mk4 Supras attract an interesting demographic in that they seem to appeal to a wide range of ages/cohorts, and part of this probably explains why the pricing is so high (given they appeal to groups that can afford those prices.) Whether the new Supra does this or not I'm curious to see - kind of like the B17, because the reputation behind it is so great might anything that follows it (regardless of how good) still be seen as a disappointment?

If Toyota is going to offer the Supra only in an automatic transmission, I assume they are confident this will not impact sales - however, I would also guess that this will potentially further increase the desirability of the Mk 4s (especially 6-speed MT 2JZGTEs), and further fuels my interest in how the demographics of buyers of the two cars may or may not overlap.
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Car people miss the analog feeling of cars, so a new supra will only remind everyone how great analog cars are.
And only this one older fellow that have driven Porsches all his life would tell me on this forum that there's no such thing as this analog feeling.

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If Toyota is going to offer the Supra only in an automatic transmission
I think the target audiences are slightly different between the pre-facelift twins and this new Supra. Toyota wants this new Supra to be high tech to compete with the current crop of the competition. The original twins were made for people who wanted a new car engineered as close to older sports cars as possible. The facelift twins kinda overlap.
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Just a reminder. MKIV Supras can be imported now and are exempt. Prices may drop as more years become available for import.
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Just a reminder. MKIV Supras can be imported now and are exempt. Prices may drop as more years become available for import.
So now instead of paying 60k for a 25 year old car, you will only have to pay 40k.

NSXs are legal to import now too, but I haven't seen any that are "affordable" yet.

Edit: if you guys haven't realized it yet, I really really want a 1991 NSX.

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Just a reminder. MKIV Supras can be imported now and are exempt. Prices may drop as more years become available for import.
Isn't it cheaper to just buy an used LHD Supra and then retrofit the JDM bits onto it like the motorized front lip?
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NSXs are legal to import now too, but I haven't seen any that are "affordable" yet.

Edit: if you guys haven't realized it yet, I really really want a 1991 NSX.
i saw one for $30k, but it was auto

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Isn't it cheaper to just buy an used LHD Supra and then retrofit the JDM bits onto it like the motorized front lip?
I was saying the price of USDM Supras would possibly go down with the addition and possibility of imports into the US.
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Just a reminder. MKIV Supras can be imported now and are exempt. Prices may drop as more years become available for import.
They aren't cheap even in Japan. The fact they can be imported may even force the prices up. You can also add about $10k to the price just to get one into the US. The demand for imports will still outstrip the supply so the prices will still be high.
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They aren't cheap even in Japan. The fact they can be imported may even force the prices up. You can also add about $10k to the price just to get one into the US. The demand for imports will still outstrip the supply so the prices will still be high.
Go down ;-) not cheap.
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Go down ;-) not cheap.
Lol ya I got that. What I was saying was that by the time you paid the price there and add the other costs they will still be costly. If they are as much or more as buying one here then it will not bring the price down for the US version.
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Lol ya I got that. What I was saying was that by the time you paid the price there and add the other costs they will still be costly. If they are as much or more as buying one here then it will not bring the price down for the US version.
If the price of the JDM versions are the same, and the premium of bringing them over means they will be more expensive than the current market then they won’t sell here, but JDM cars do sell here, so why would the Supra be different? Check out the cars that go for sale here...most are super clean and/or low mileage examples, so they fetch a premium, but compared to equal examples here, they are priced at market.

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