Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Wild Weasel

Also... it's been mentioned that the better comparison is to a 50 shot of nitrous, which is right on the money. So, having just seen this... here's an advantage that this kit has over that option...

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/pro...ium=socialflow

No pop-off valve?

[Wild Weasel]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

No pop-off valve?

Apparently real men don't use pop-off valves.

[Robftss]

All things considered, it is a hybrid of Nitrous and traditional FI. It literally (edit: essentially ?) slots 1/2 way between both.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by Robftss

All things considered, it is a hybrid of Nitrous and traditional FI. It literally slots 1/2 way between both.

It "literally" does not. No nitrous is involved, this is just an alternative non-parasitic FI option.

I apologize for my tone, but the overuse of "literally" is fast becoming a pet peeve of mine.

[Wild Weasel]

Originally Posted by Robftss... Probably

DAMMIT! I'm an engineer, not an English major!!

[WolfsFang]

is this something that will be produced? Depending on price I would 100% get this.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

It "literally" does not. No nitrous is involved, this is just an alternative non-parasitic FI option.

I apologize for my tone, but the overuse of "literally" is fast becoming a pet peeve of mine.

I think he was just referring to the fact that you can only use it in very short bursts, but it recharges its own "nitrous". I know what you mean about "literally" though.

I agree that this doesn't compare well to regular FI, since it can only be used in such short "bursts" its not really an "always on" power solution like a turbo or supercharger. Since it only engages at full throttle that means throttle modulation for any sort of precision driving is unlikely to work well. I would guess that the most common use for this will be stop light drag racing, which it should do just fine with, if that is what you are looking for.

I can see a device like this being the #1 choice when battery technology reaches the point that you can use full boost for say 60+ seconds without a need to recharge, and modulating the throttle is possible without losing boost.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by Pete

I think he was just referring to the fact that you can only use it in very short bursts, but it recharges its own "nitrous". I know what you mean about "literally" though.

You're correct, I left that part out of my reply. A good term for this (besides e-charger) would be "burst-charger."

[mid_life_crisis]

Fenton seems to not be ashamed to admit that his car is in serious need of a driver mod. The point being that a talented driver might find that with the latest modification that is intended to eliminate restriction when not at full throttle, the responsiveness might be improved enough to make a sufficient improvement over stock to reduce lap times.
What I'm trying to say is that it might be good for more than just straight lines.

[Wild Weasel]

Originally Posted by Pete

I agree that this doesn't compare well to regular FI, since it can only be used in such short "bursts" its not really an "always on" power solution like a turbo or supercharger. Since it only engages at full throttle that means throttle modulation for any sort of precision driving is unlikely to work well. I would guess that the most common use for this will be stop light drag racing, which it should do just fine with, if that is what you are looking for.

I understand what you're saying with regard to precision driving, but I don't want people to misunderstand how this thing is useful. You say it's not really "always on" by which I'm sure you mean that it's not increasing the overall consumption of the engine like a regular turbo. So the engine does not behave as though it were simply a bigger engine.

But from all testing so far, it IS always available when you want it, and it's definitely useful for more than just hooning. The power is immediately available any time you want full acceleration whether that means running up an on-ramp or pulling out to pass someone.

[mid_life_crisis]

Translation please.
"Hooning"?

I feel like Data when they took the country star on board. "Pit woofie?"

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Wild Weasel

...But from all testing so far, it IS always available when you want it...

It's not available if you have just used it. You have to wait for it to recharge. Thus not always on.

[Wild Weasel]

Originally Posted by Pete

It's not available if you have just used it. You have to wait for it to recharge. Thus not always on.

This is not true. Nobody who has tested one has yet to be able to run it out.

And that's exactly the misunderstanding I expect a lot of people might have when reading about this. I did everything I could to actively try to run down the battery and simply couldn't do it. The blower was available any time I wanted it. Unless you're on the Autobahn and can hold the throttle wide open for long periods of time, the system will charge faster than you can run it down.

The only opportunity on this side of the sea to run it down might be over a few laps at a track event. I don't think anyone has tried this yet.

[Wild Weasel]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

Translation please.
"Hooning"?

I feel like Data when they took the country star on board. "Pit woofie?"

Sorry... driving like a maniac. I'm just making the point that this is useful to people who aren't idiots too. This isn't just a red-light-racer toy.