C6 Z06 vs LS7 Swap Frs

[ZDan]

At ~56/44 weight distribution post-swap, the FT86 isn't an ideal platform for a big-power LS IMO, but of course it can be done...

I'm coming from a 6.8 LS3 swapped FD RX-7, which at 50/50 post swap is a better place to start.

But yeah, if you're not doing the work yourself you'll come out WAY ahead getting a C6 Z06.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by BLKWOLF

If your income wasn't exactly claimable and buying a car over 10k would draw questions from the great guys and gals at the IRS, you'd be looking at either finding a Z06 roller and rebuilding or simply swapping out the frs you already own with an ls7. Do does anyone have enough affinity for the 86 chassis/feel to pay more than you would for the Z06 if they were near the same price in total?

More importantly can someone give me a reasonably accurate quote for a shop to complete the swap?

Cam girl, stripper, insider trader or drug dealer

Roughly $35-40k if you want full canbus integration with a Motec. PureAuto could set you up. In the end, you won't have a Z06 drivetrain. You will have a LS7/LT1 or whatever engine with a Camaro T56. I haven't seen anyone swap a torque tube and rear transmission into an 86, but if your pockets are deep then anything can be done.



I would just buy a used C6 Z06. Prices have come down a lot. You will have better weight distribution than a swapped 86 and a stronger platform. It won't be unique, but you can always twin turbo it or something.

[gtpvette]

Here you go.....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...and-sport.html

grand sport 29K miles..... a bit pricy but nice

As a sidebar,, if you buy a Vette,, buy it from an old guy. One that spends it life in the garage and only comes on the weekends. There are plenty of them like this,, trust me.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Cam girl, stripper, insider trader or drug dealer

Roughly $35-40k if you want full canbus integration with a Motec. PureAuto could set you up. In the end, you won't have a Z06 drivetrain. You will have a LS7/LT1 or whatever engine with a Camaro T56. I haven't seen anyone swap a torque tube and rear transmission into an 86, but if your pockets are deep then anything can be done.

Or.. a high school kid with no money making this entire thread a waste of time and space.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Or.. a high school kid with no money making this entire thread a waste of time and space.

I would go as far as saying that all threads asking about swaps are a waste of time.
Those that can do it are not asking if they should or what it costs.
The impression seems to be that it is cheap, easy and fast to swap an engine. I suppose the availability of kits does make it ever so slightly easier than six or seven years ago but it is still not cheap nor fast.
There are probably several hundred half done projects sitting and rotting under tarps beside garages for every completed swap no matter what year, make and model car you are talking about.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The impression seems to be that it is cheap, easy and fast to swap an engine..

But wait, I've seen them do it on Velocity/Speed/Motor Trend/whatever its called this week channel and they do it in a couple of days, with no problems! You mean it's more difficult than opening a crate, 4 guys slamming the engine in while two other guys go goof off making funny bits while buying the next car?

How can that be?!?

Heck on one documentary, I saw them install it while it was running and half the crew was just dancing around....

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

But wait, I've seen them do it on Velocity/Speed/Motor Trend/whatever its called this week channel and they do it in a couple of days, with no problems! You mean it's more difficult than opening a crate, 4 guys slamming the engine in while two other guys go goof off making funny bits while buying the next car?

How can that be?!?

Heck on one documentary, I saw them install it while it was running and half the crew was just dancing around....

I think I am safe in saying that I am the only person on this forum that has actually helped do a swap in a 49 Ford Deluxe. It was just a change from the stock 239 to a new(ish) 351 and I can assure you we did not feel like dancing nor singing. In fact due to language and violence it would have been an R rated movie by about the second week into it!

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The impression seems to be that it is cheap, easy and fast to swap an engine.

This, 1 million percent. There are so many facets of expertise and skill that are required for it to go well, let alone the expenses and luck involved. Even if you were to try and swap a carbureted 350, one of the most basic ass engines into an FRS/BRZ, it'd be so much work. SO MUCH.
The swap does not end at "Ok, I want to do this and so because I want to, I can."
Square peg into round hole doesn't begin to cover it. More like squeezing an orange through the eye of a needle and intending for it to look like an orange at the end.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

This, 1 million percent. There are so many facets of expertise and skill that are required for it to go well, let alone the expenses and luck involved. Even if you were to try and swap a carbureted 350, one of the most basic ass engines into an FRS/BRZ, it'd be so much work. SO MUCH.
The swap does not end at "Ok, I want to do this and so because I want to, I can."
Square peg into round hole doesn't begin to cover it. More like squeezing an orange through the eye of a needle and intending for it to look like an orange at the end.

BuT bRuuuH there iS a KiT!

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

BuT bRuuuH there iS a KiT!

Can you believe that they actually sell CARS to go along with the LS engines they sell? You can even get them from a dealership with the engine pre-installed, it's nuts. It's like it was built for it

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Can you believe that they actually sell CARS to go along with the LS engines they sell? You can even get them from a dealership with the engine pre-installed, it's nuts. It's like it was built for it

OHHHH! I thought that was just a fancy shipping container....daaayyyymmmmm

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Can you believe that they actually sell CARS to go along with the LS engines they sell? You can even get them from a dealership with the engine pre-installed, it's nuts. It's like it was built for it

But they cost too much!

[p1l0t]

Can get an LS1 for like $1500-2500 freedom bucks and put it into just about any car if you are a good enough welder/fabricator...

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[p1l0t]

Shit I shouldn't have posted that how do I delete again?

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