Will the new Supra kill the resale value of my 86

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

If the price of the JDM versions are the same, and the premium of bringing them over means they will be more expensive than the current market then they won’t sell here, but JDM cars do sell here, so why would the Supra be different? Check out the cars that go for sale here...most are super clean and/or low mileage examples, so they fetch a premium, but compared to equal examples here, they are priced at market.

https://www.japaneseclassics.com

I don't think he was saying that JDM prices will be identical to USDM prices, but after paying all the extra associated costs for transport/registration you will be pretty much be breaking even.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I don't think he was saying that JDM prices will be identical to USDM prices, but after paying all the extra associated costs for transport/registration you will be pretty much be breaking even.

Breaking even still means more Supras will enter the US market, so the supply would be higher, so the price goes down because there is less scarcity.

[Summerwolf]

Jdm examples seem to be less costly than a clean usdm version. I have been following the gtr market closely, and cross shopping with rx7s and supras. People don't seem to be bringing them in as much since we have usdm cars, and also the initial buy in price is steep for many when you need some decent upfront cash. Either that or finance a 25 yr old car, lol.

[wbradley]

It's ironic that in most cases people stateside, especially in the more densely populated areas often have access to a greater variety of things that might be scarce in other areas. Little/no tax plus currency exchange always helps.

However, when it comes to JDM cars we have had a less restricted access here for sure. I have enjoyed eyeballing a plethora or cars and trucks brought in from Japan auctions for the most part including EVERY generation and iteration of GTR including the original from the late 60's/early 70's up to the R34. As they have approached importation age for the US the asking prices have skyrocketed. I have seen tons of other cars, many European, that were brought here from Japan. Saw a completely track prepped Z3M coupe on the website of the importer one day ("clown shoe") and never thought twice, but had I not already bought my summer car, that would have been a monster. If all the mechs checked out. I hear that from Japan typically everything does check out, but still due diligence.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Breaking even still means more Supras will enter the US market, so the supply would be higher, so the price goes down because there is less scarcity.

Sure I get that, but that didn't really hold true for the NSX, it makes me wonder if the mkiv Supra will be the same way. Maybe you will be able to get them for 5-10k cheaper in a couple years, but they will still sell for +40k for a clean manual version in my opinion.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Sure I get that, but that didn't really hold true for the NSX, it makes me wonder if the mkiv Supra will be the same way. Maybe you will be able to get them for 5-10k cheaper in a couple years, but they will still sell for +40k for a clean manual version in my opinion.

I think the NSX doesn’t have the volume of sales to offset the cost with volume. There are NA and turbo Supras to import. Some will buy the NA and swap later or build the NA 2jz and still have the power potential and body of a MKIV.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I have seen tons of other cars, many European, that were brought here from Japan.

I can imagine the Japanese collectors have bought up a lot of 80's and 90's gems over the years. For example in Hong Kong a lot of mint E30 M3 and 190E AMG Evos are imported from Japan as classic cars (classic car permits there only allow them to be driven 12 times a year).

Personally I would never understand the desire to drive a RHD car (and vice versa elsewhere) unless it was never available here. I would rather convert an US car with JDM bits if possible.

[gymratter]

RHD Supras wont have much of an effect imo. they have been available in Canada for years now and prices have remained about the same.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by gymratter

RHD Supras wont have much of an effect imo. they have been available in Canada for years now and prices have remained about the same.

Remained the same as in the market went flat or prices stagnated, or the same as in the prices keep going up like here?

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Remained the same as in the market went flat or prices stagnated, or the same as in the prices keep going up like here?

the same as prices continued to stay where they are. in other words, JDM Supras did not cause LHD Supras to do go down in Canada.

and like funwheeldrive pointed out, JDM NSX has not made the USDM prices go down either.

i think a big factor is because A LOT of the cars that are being brought over here are AUTOs. its also not helping that the sellers are sometimes even asking more for them than their USDM counterpart. there was an idiot over at NSXprime that was importing a few autos and was asking like $60k+. he claims that JDM NSX are superior to the USDM models

[krayzie]

Isn't the US Supra 320hp vs JDM Supra 280ps for the MkIV? But I wouldn't rock those stock chrome rims.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Isn't the US Supra 320hp vs JDM Supra 280ps for the MkIV? But I wouldn't rock those stock chrome rims.

The jdm had smaller ceramic turbos and 440cc injectors instead of 550cc injectors, besides having less power like you mentioned, but it had no EGR or some other emission bits.

To @gymratter ... we will see what happens.

[ajh88]

Scarcity of USDM Supras will keep their prices ever increasing despite imported JDM RHD versions. People shopping for these cars dont just want "a Supra" they want a specific kind. They are not fungible.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by OfficeWorker

If Toyota is going to offer the Supra only in an automatic transmission, I assume they are confident this will not impact sales - however, I would also guess that this will potentially further increase the desirability of the Mk 4s (especially 6-speed MT 2JZGTEs), and further fuels my interest in how the demographics of buyers of the two cars may or may not overlap.

I think Toyota is only planning to build about 5,000 cars per year. So the transmission choice's impact on the sales of the car is irrelevant - they will sell all of them. At 5,000 unit it could have been manual only and they still would sell them all.

That should tell you something about the car...