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Old 02-03-2021, 09:52 AM   #29
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Actually these will be track monsters. They turn very fast. I still favor the GEN3 CTS-V, particularly the Carbon Black edition. The new Blackwing is a little too subtle, I like the I'm going to kick your ass version.

Just checked CTS-V prices (2016+) and they hold their value incredibly well.
A BMW m5 becomes 15-20kusd cheaper than the Cadillac when used.
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Just checked CTS-V prices (2016+) and they hold their value incredibly well.
A BMW m5 becomes 15-20kusd cheaper than the Cadillac when used.
The one that holds it's value best is the CTS-V Wagon from GEN2. The manual versions now sell for about the same or more than when they were new on sites like Bring A Trailer.

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Hopefully they were all ordered with the 6MT so I can buy one for cheap in 5 years. As of this morning you can still preorder the CT4-V Blackwing.
I've had my eye on this thing for a while. I can't afford one new and I'm afraid I will not even be able to afford one in 5 years. I could be wrong but with ICE on it's way out and manuals being so rare I can't see this thing doing anything but going up in value. Especially if they only sell 250 of them.

I've got a friend who works for Cadi and he said they don't have a manual on the normal CT5-V but do on the normal CT4-V. I'd be willing to go for the CT4-V Blackwing or maybe even the normal CT4-V.

I haven't seen any details on the differential. I'll assume all 4 of them will get a mechanical LSD and not some silly ABS modulated BS.

Cadillac has earned some serious cool points with me with these Blackwings. Going out with a bang while everyone else is on the boring electric bandwagon.
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I could be wrong but with ICE on it's way out and manuals being so rare I can't see this thing doing anything but going up in value. Especially if they only sell 250 of them..
From what I could tell, the 250 number was the preorders, but they do plan to sell more of them through 2022.

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From what I could tell, the 250 number was the preorders, but they do plan to sell more of them through 2022.

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Okay that is promising. I also just got conformation that the CT4-V has a mechanical LSD. I would assume the other models do too.
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I'd be willing to go for the CT4-V Blackwing or maybe even the normal CT4-V.
For me, the 4 is smaller than I want for a 4door. I'm seriously considering the standard CT5-V as my next car. I really want the 5V-Blackwing but the 5V is really as much or more car than I need on the road. I just hate leaving all that power, and the 6MT, on the table!
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For me, the 4 is smaller than I want for a 4door. I'm seriously considering the standard CT5-V as my next car. I really want the 5V-Blackwing but the 5V is really as much or more car than I need on the road. I just hate leaving all that power, and the 6MT, on the table!
Call me strange but leaving the manual on the table is a bigger issue than the power. 668HP is way more power than I would ever need. I wouldn't be able to drive it like I stole it without going to the track. Honestly the regular CT5-V is more power than I would need too... but the manual is a deal breaker for me.
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Call me strange but leaving the manual on the table is a bigger issue than the power. 668HP is way more power than I would ever need. I wouldn't be able to drive it like I stole it without going to the track. Honestly the regular CT5-V is more power than I would need too... but the manual is a deal breaker for me.
Understood. I go back and forth on the manual, but in the end, it is only a minor thing to me. Frankly, and I've said this before, I've driven manuals for so many 10s of thousands miles on the street that the whole process is "automatic" anyway. It neither adds, nor takes away, anything from the driving experience I can't get from a decent paddle shifting auto in manual mode.

If I were to buy a Blackwing I would get it with the 6MT, but the fact that it isn't available in the 5V doesn't bother me.
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I would love the CT4-V blackwing. God bless GM for going out with a bang for ICE engines. To bad I can't afford it and would rather get a C8 LT1 with Z51
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I would love the CT4-V blackwing. God bless GM for going out with a bang for ICE engines. To bad I can't afford it and would rather get a C8 LT1 with Z51
Thatís why I donít get why they did not use this engine on the cts-4. Would be much easier to prep for track and have better sound
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Thatís why I donít get why they did not use this engine on the cts-4. Would be much easier to prep for track and have better sound
If I had to guess, I would say it is because it would have been faster than the CT5-V Blackwing. Either that, or it just wouldn't fit to OEM standards.
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