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Old 01-28-2021, 05:26 PM   #309
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I agree, but I think it really, really depends on the UI. You get a large, capacitive touch screen that is a giant iPad then that greatly changes the clicking experience. My big thing is having to go into menu after menu after menu. The 86 is perfect for quickly turning off traction control and turning on the heated seats. The biggest disadvantage with the 86 and cars like it, is you can't add more buttons or options or menu items. Want to set the seat heaters to come on when cabin temperatures are below X and outside temps are below Y then it would be possible, or rather, there is just potential for endless configurations, so I get Telsa, and I get your point.
That's what i hate most about all these infotainment systems. They're just menus and menus and menus of crap that you have to keep digging through to get to where you want I think that's what makes the rotary dial (like Idrive) the easiest to use in that case. punching in a navigation address still sucks though cuz you have to scroll through each letter one by one still. The touchpads in Lexus and other products had the potential to be better but in the case of Lexus their UI was not really made for touchpad navigation so it makes it cumbersome to use.

Im amazed that none of these manufactuers have made a UI like a smortphone (I think Volvo's might be similar? im not sure about Tesla)
With a touch screen it'll be so intuitive and easy to understand.

Touchscreens on the other hand, they have to be responsive otherwise they are just as frustrating. My old Honda Fit's wasnt the most responsive and it got a little bit annoying. My Scion Im (using the much loved Pioner HU that is the same as the FRS/86) is pretty responsive but its also pretty basic so there isnt much functionality to it.
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That's what i hate most about all these infotainment systems. They're just menus and menus and menus of crap that you have to keep digging through to get to where you want I think that's what makes the rotary dial (like Idrive) the easiest to use in that case. punching in a navigation address still sucks though cuz you have to scroll through each letter one by one still. The touchpads in Lexus and other products had the potential to be better but in the case of Lexus their UI was not really made for touchpad navigation so it makes it cumbersome to use.

Im amazed that none of these manufactuers have made a UI like a smortphone (I think Volvo's might be similar? im not sure about Tesla)
With a touch screen it'll be so intuitive and easy to understand.
I think the closest manufacture by far is Tesla. Many of their software employees even came from Apple and other top companies. From all the reviews I have seen, the UI isn't perfect, but it is far ahead of the competition like you mentioned Lexus, but there UI is terrible. If it wasn't for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto then the LC500's UI would be terrible.





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I think the closest manufacture by far is Tesla.]
All I saw in this ad was "Hey, look at all the crap we built in so you won't be bored while you're waiting an hour for your car to charge!"
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Model S video
Good video, very balanced in terms of opinions, in my opinion. Even if he did call the yoke from a plane a "plane steering wheel" after referring to the one in a Tesla by the proper yoke term.

Unfortunately for me, Tesla continues to move away from anything I would want to buy. Here's why:
  • Still not a fan of the internal or external design language, although I will give them credit for retaining a display behind the wheel.
  • The "yolk" is cool but not what I want in my car. It works in an F1 car because the speeds make "turning" very minimal movements. In fact, I would rather have a fly-by-wire sidestick in the car. That is a more natural movement for something moving left-right.
  • No gear selector!?! Oh hell, no for all the reasons the reviewer mentioned. I mean, there's only P, N, R, D right? They could at least had paddles, one for reverse, one for drive.
  • Price. The Plaid+ which has the range I want, is well outside the price I'm willing to pay for a car that the only difference is range and speed. I don't know anyone that needs <1.9 0 to 60 for a street car (although I'll take it). Give me the range in the base model please (which is still overpriced in my opinion).
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...long winter journey into EV video...
Every time I'm about convinced that I should buy an EV I see something like this. So, on a 2,000 mile road trip he spent about 21% of his time fueling his car. Ugmm... no thanks.

Also, I love the "Hey, I'm on an snow covered road but I'm making a video so I need to use my hands for not driving..in fact I'll take both hands off the wheel..watch me slowly drift out of my lane and have to correct back".

Some interesting points though on the not charging to full, charging more frequently, etc.
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Every time I'm about convinced that I should buy an EV I see something like this. So, on a 2,000 mile road trip he spent about 21% of his time fueling his car. Ugmm... no thanks.

Also, I love the "Hey, I'm on an snow covered road but I'm making a video so I need to use my hands for not driving..in fact I'll take both hands off the wheel..watch me slowly drift out of my lane and have to correct back".

Some interesting points though on the not charging to full, charging more frequently, etc.
He is clear on saying that he prefers the ICE for long trips. Right now, a BEV is more for a daily commute, and mid travels.
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EDIT: I posted this before watching it. I am impressed with how involved Elon Musk is to his products. For instance, I don't know if Tim Cook could give the same type of answers on materials, electronics, etc in their iPhones or Mac products, nor could Mark Zuckerburg give such detail about the details of things going on at Facebook, at least that seems to be the case from his interviews in front of congress. Musk seems to be very hands on.

I'm especially in agreement about his point about MBA school. Far too many of these idiots are leading companies with their ten million dollar CEO salaries without actually knowing their product intimately and developing knowledge and expertise in the field. I'm also in agreement about shorting the market.

Wished they had a chance to talk about SpaceX, even if it wasn't Monro's focus.
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are some of these superchargers that are off the road just in like a parking lot-ish place with nothing around?

So at those places you just gotta wait there for like 20mins to get your car in a good enough state of charge?
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are some of these superchargers that are off the road just in like a parking lot-ish place with nothing around?

So at those places you just gotta wait there for like 20mins to get your car in a good enough state of charge?
Most superchargers are in close/walking proximity to dinning and shopping centers, but there are probably exceptions, and as time progresses on, there will be more and more than are not in these key areas.
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