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Cars used to be largely the dream of one particular designer. Legendary greats like Harley Earl, Giorgetto Guigiaro, Battista Farina, Virgil Exner, Alec Issigonis, Colin Chapman, Bill Mitchell, Siochiro Honda, and others. They gave us the cars of legend many of us had posters of on our bedroom walls when we were kids (or adults). They were visionaries, they dreamed up things no one else could, and they pushed them through to reality. Now companies are paralyzed in the stifling morass of committees. When a committee designs something, it regresses to the lowest common denominator. The goal is not to offend anyone. If you have to make a design inoffensive to a room full of bureaucrats, you're not going to get anything out of the process that will take your breath away. The Japanese business philosophy of 'building consensus' is in part a nice way of appeasing and appealing to everyone and offending no one. Honda used to produce such distinctive designs, and then they died a slow death by committee. Mazda is one of the few car companies left that still tries to stick to its roots, keeps an element of soulfulness in (some of) its cars and still makes things like the Miata. Given the realities of the 21st century and the towering Toyota bureaucracy, I'm amazed the BRZ/86 turned out as distinctive as it did. As far as the humps being added on vs an organic part of the design, I could make a salacious and inappropriately non-woke comment with a comparison to other hump-like things that could be added on, and whether added humps are as desirable as natural humps. But I won't. Humps are humps. However they got there, and I think they look good on the BRZ. |
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Thanks for posting those pics, definitely hadn't seen them in a while. Really shows the curves and sharp lines missing from gen2, which appears more smooth and bulbous, or supraish.
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Toyota, and other automakers do it from time to time as well, but the Germans take it to a whole other level imo. For example the LS testing cycle. Early stage testing. New platform under the current LS shell. Production car with faux camo and lights. Production car with mostly just camo wrap. Last edited by vh_supra26; 09-01-2020 at 09:46 PM. |
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^Thanks for finding the vid.
Anytime. I guess it depends on which camp you're in. Some like the sleeker look like with the original FT-86 concept. For me I'll hold off judgement until we see official pics from Toyota. All I know is that it can't look any worse then the Zupra with 8 fake vents and odd Milhouse looking nose. |
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Test mule?
Refer article below. https://www.caradvice.com.au/879681/...n-turbo-power/ Article goes on a bit about the non turbo engine but probably fair guess it’s doing engine testing and links to the original forum it was posted on. |
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i could be blind but i dontt see the rear mounted temp sensors anywhere...but the badging was definately taped up for some reason... and it DOESNT sound turbocharged?....well its a current gen BRZ or 86....almost completely intact...so it can also completely be a current gen 86/brz with no modifications...hell it could just be a regular 86/brz that someone taped the rear badge to troll wannabe spy shooters. |
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Refresh my memory, when will we get an official unveiling of the actual car?
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