2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 185 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Magyarman · 06-19-2020, 08:31 AM

I dropped off my wifes 2002 Avalon yesterday at the dealer. While there I looked at a new supra and the 1st thing I thought
was that it looked like a Star Wars soldier. I thought well,it has all the desirable goodies under that body.
But it'd not to my taste.I like the look of my FRS 2.0 much better.

FRSK1RK · 06-19-2020, 09:05 AM

i heard rumors that 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems

42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big

and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube.

he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA release

so i guess

wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$

Irace86.2.0 · 06-19-2020, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSK1RK

i heard rumors that 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems

42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big

and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube.

he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA release

so i guess

wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$

What type of problems? From what I read, the B48 is a B58 with two cylinders chopped off.

FRSK1RK · 06-19-2020, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

What type of problems? From what I read, the B48 is a B58 with two cylinders chopped off.

no idea man, i don't have any knowledge or some kind about BMW engines

i just red this comments on RAITI's RIDE youtube.. so i dont know if it is fact or fiction.

FRSK1RK · 06-19-2020, 11:49 AM

i saw this comment about 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems

42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big

and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube.

he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA releases

so i guess

wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$

Sasquachulator · 06-19-2020, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSK1RK

i saw this comment about 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems

42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big

and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube.

he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA releases

so i guess

wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$

I dont think theres really anything wrong with the current B series motors, i know the previous N series engines had its share of problems though.

Sasquachulator · 06-19-2020, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

What type of problems? From what I read, the B48 is a B58 with two cylinders chopped off.

yeah i beileve the B series motors are modular so they're all basically designed the same with more or fewer cylinders as needed. Pretty sure all manufacturers are trying to go this route to save costs.

Irace86.2.0 · 06-19-2020, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSK1RK

no idea man, i don't have any knowledge or some kind about BMW engines

i just red this comments on RAITI's RIDE youtube.. so i dont know if it is fact or fiction.

I do think the Supra would have been more competitively priced closer to $38-40k, but this is because of all the take aways.

I haven't researched that motor, but I don't know if Toyota had anything to do with the development of any of BMW's engines or if the motor is prone to problems.

I think the thing to remember is that there are many 2.0T engines out there in the $20k to $30k to $40k to $50k. Not all are the same in terms of power output, power delivery, quality, reliability and power potential. There are other things that go into the price of a vehicle. For the Supra, it is a luxury GT car. It may have a Toyota badge, but it has BMW/Lexus class body panels, materials, etc. Pricing will reflect such things.

The only thing about the B48 that I can think of is that there isn't as much headroom for power gains compared to the Supra. I'm sure hp/cylinder and fueling from the direct injectors are the limiting factors.

Tcoat · 06-19-2020, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSK1RK

no idea man, i don't have any knowledge or some kind about BMW engines

i just red this comments on RAITI's RIDE youtube.. so i dont know if it is fact or fiction.

Well now that is a reliable source if ever I saw one. Also must have great insider info on the cost to build to be able to state what the price should be with such confidence.

JD001 · 06-20-2020, 03:49 AM

Someone having some fun with the Supra..

Irace86.2.0 · 06-20-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001

Someone having some fun with the Supra..

[url]httpsurl]

gymratter · 06-20-2020, 02:19 PM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...-is-live.5682/

https://www.toyota.com/configurator/...eries/gr-supra

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Correct. I think, I have rant bout this (somewhere). In Japan, there are 3 options.
SZ - 2.0L w very basic Minimal options
SZ-R - 2.0L w almost all the options from RZ
RZ - 3.0L w all the options

Now I’m US, base model 3.0 have Japan’s SZ-R options. Due to that, US ver 2.0 gets short end of the stick plus they didn’t want to give buyer much debate in options for Supra other than base model 3.0 or Premium 3.0. If you get safety option 2.0 added, you can almost get base model 3.0. How sad is that? No e-dif, brembos nor e-suspension, only for pointless safety options for price of 3.0...

$47,430 was the price tag for the 2.0 w/ just safety & technology package

BA9092 · 06-20-2020, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

$47,430 was the price tag for the 2.0 w/ just safety & technology package

Ouch! That's close to CPO pricing on a 2020 3.0 Premium.

gymratter · 06-20-2020, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BA9092

Ouch! That's close to CPO pricing on a 2020 3.0 Premium.

lol, people have gotten left over NEW base 2020s for as low as $45k before ttl of course.

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06-19-2020, 08:31 AM	#2577
Magyarman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: 2016 FR-S series 2.0 , 2002avalon Location: baltimore Posts: 109 Thanks: 105 Thanked 126 Times in 60 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I dropped off my wifes 2002 Avalon yesterday at the dealer. While there I looked at a new supra and the 1st thing I thought was that it looked like a Star Wars soldier. I thought well,it has all the desirable goodies under that body. But it'd not to my taste.I like the look of my FRS 2.0 much better. Attached Images

06-19-2020, 09:05 AM	#2578
FRSK1RK Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Drives: 2013 SCION FR-S Location: JAX, FLORIDA Posts: 41 Thanks: 17 Thanked 46 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i heard rumors that 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems 42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube. he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA release so i guess wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$ __________________ IG: @k1rkky 2013 FR-S ARGENTO

06-19-2020, 11:49 AM	#2581
FRSK1RK Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Drives: 2013 SCION FR-S Location: JAX, FLORIDA Posts: 41 Thanks: 17 Thanked 46 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i saw this comment about 4 cylinders BMW engines are prones to problems 42k$ 2.0 SUPRA, i don't know if its worth it, if it causing problems in the future, BMW engines cost $$$$ big and after i watch RAITI'S RIDE on youtube. he stated that every year they will make an upgrades on SUPRA releases so i guess wait for more options to come in the future and it will be more and more $$$$ Attached Images __________________ IG: @k1rkky 2013 FR-S ARGENTO

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