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Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM

Hoping for some input here. I'm trying to decide whether to supercharge my frs or sell it and my motorcycle and buy a couple year old wrx sti. Already have 2 kids and one more coming, so the added room would be nice. I know the bike will be parked this year with the little one arriving at the start of bike season. My dilemma is giving up the warranty on the frs in search of more power. I'm already stg 2 OFT with power blocks. has anyone here switched? or what are some reasons I shouldn't?

Tcoat · 12-01-2014, 12:41 PM

Is it your only family vehicle?
If so the reasons to change are obvious.
If not then the answer is not so simple.

Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 12:45 PM

Wife has a venza that is the family vehicle, she actually likes the frs. I'm just thinking the STI will cover more bases, room, power, and warranty

Tcoat · 12-01-2014, 12:53 PM

You will certainly have more space and power but there are a pile of trade offs. There are a bunch of comparisons in the Vs section that may help you figure out which way to go.
Here is one:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56040

Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 12:55 PM

Thanks for the input.... I'll do some more reading

Defuser · 12-01-2014, 05:10 PM

Three young-uns? I would definately want a four door, at least if you know you will be hauling the tykes around somewhat frequently.

Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 05:12 PM

Usually if the kids go in the frs at all its just to run an errand. But yeah the practicality of a 4 door is starting to come to play... Wow I'm getting old

misooscar · 12-01-2014, 05:30 PM

I went with a vortech supercharger and love it, night and day from the e85, but I only have two kids under 7 yrs...go sti, so you can haul all three

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Burrcold · 12-01-2014, 05:31 PM

I have a 2 and 4 year old and I never let them in my car lol. We use my wife's Accord for everything "family" related. If you really only have them in the FRS to run the occasional errand, than I would reconsider as you will most likely see how useless the added 2 doors are. However, and it's a big however, the power and practicality of an STi will definitely be your best friend if you really need it.

Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 05:33 PM

Yeah its a tough, both are such great cars!

Burrcold · 12-01-2014, 05:37 PM

And hey what offsets getting older more than a great looking sports car like the FRS

Triumphrider · 12-01-2014, 05:49 PM

Lol a supercharger for the frs to haul the additional weight

could pretty much talk the wife into that... That's logical

DarkSunrise · 12-01-2014, 05:52 PM

If you're worried about reliability, be aware that GD and GR (EJ257) STI's are known for cracking their ringlands. This happens under detonation, whether on a stock tune or aftermarket.

Other than that, they're good sporty family haulers. You give up the handling, lightweight feel, and fuel economy of the Twins, but you gain back power and practicality.

I probably wouldn't go for it if you have a Venza that can handle family duties, but if you need to take the kids around often, it's not a bad way to go.

misooscar · 12-01-2014, 07:29 PM

On another thought, I could haul another 8 year old in the front, and still transport 3 kiddies lol

12-01-2014, 12:32 PM	#1
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	decisions decisions Hoping for some input here. I'm trying to decide whether to supercharge my frs or sell it and my motorcycle and buy a couple year old wrx sti. Already have 2 kids and one more coming, so the added room would be nice. I know the bike will be parked this year with the little one arriving at the start of bike season. My dilemma is giving up the warranty on the frs in search of more power. I'm already stg 2 OFT with power blocks. has anyone here switched? or what are some reasons I shouldn't?

12-01-2014, 12:41 PM	#2
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Is it your only family vehicle? If so the reasons to change are obvious. If not then the answer is not so simple. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

12-01-2014, 12:45 PM	#3
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wife has a venza that is the family vehicle, she actually likes the frs. I'm just thinking the STI will cover more bases, room, power, and warranty __________________ 2013 Scion Frs AT in Whiteout, Borla UEL header, Greddy SP Elite AxleBack. Kraftwerks C38 Supercharger tuned by Moto East and 2 kid seats in the back.

12-01-2014, 12:53 PM	#4
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	You will certainly have more space and power but there are a pile of trade offs. There are a bunch of comparisons in the Vs section that may help you figure out which way to go. Here is one: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56040 __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

12-01-2014, 12:55 PM	#5
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the input.... I'll do some more reading __________________ 2013 Scion Frs AT in Whiteout, Borla UEL header, Greddy SP Elite AxleBack. Kraftwerks C38 Supercharger tuned by Moto East and 2 kid seats in the back.

12-01-2014, 05:10 PM	#6
Defuser Remember Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 Asphalt Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 313 Thanks: 225 Thanked 365 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Three young-uns? I would definately want a four door, at least if you know you will be hauling the tykes around somewhat frequently.

12-01-2014, 05:12 PM	#7
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Usually if the kids go in the frs at all its just to run an errand. But yeah the practicality of a 4 door is starting to come to play... Wow I'm getting old __________________ 2013 Scion Frs AT in Whiteout, Borla UEL header, Greddy SP Elite AxleBack. Kraftwerks C38 Supercharger tuned by Moto East and 2 kid seats in the back.

12-01-2014, 05:30 PM	#8
misooscar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: Posts: 224 Thanks: 182 Thanked 40 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I went with a vortech supercharger and love it, night and day from the e85, but I only have two kids under 7 yrs...go sti, so you can haul all three Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

12-01-2014, 05:31 PM	#9
Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have a 2 and 4 year old and I never let them in my car lol. We use my wife's Accord for everything "family" related. If you really only have them in the FRS to run the occasional errand, than I would reconsider as you will most likely see how useless the added 2 doors are. However, and it's a big however, the power and practicality of an STi will definitely be your best friend if you really need it. __________________

12-01-2014, 05:33 PM	#10
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah its a tough, both are such great cars! __________________ 2013 Scion Frs AT in Whiteout, Borla UEL header, Greddy SP Elite AxleBack. Kraftwerks C38 Supercharger tuned by Moto East and 2 kid seats in the back.

12-01-2014, 05:37 PM	#11
Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	And hey what offsets getting older more than a great looking sports car like the FRS __________________

12-01-2014, 05:49 PM	#12
Triumphrider Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS in white out Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 261 Thanks: 141 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol a supercharger for the frs to haul the additional weight could pretty much talk the wife into that... That's logical __________________ 2013 Scion Frs AT in Whiteout, Borla UEL header, Greddy SP Elite AxleBack. Kraftwerks C38 Supercharger tuned by Moto East and 2 kid seats in the back.

12-01-2014, 05:52 PM	#13
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If you're worried about reliability, be aware that GD and GR (EJ257) STI's are known for cracking their ringlands. This happens under detonation, whether on a stock tune or aftermarket. Other than that, they're good sporty family haulers. You give up the handling, lightweight feel, and fuel economy of the Twins, but you gain back power and practicality. I probably wouldn't go for it if you have a Venza that can handle family duties, but if you need to take the kids around often, it's not a bad way to go. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

12-01-2014, 07:29 PM	#14
misooscar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: Posts: 224 Thanks: 182 Thanked 40 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	On another thought, I could haul another 8 year old in the front, and still transport 3 kiddies lol

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