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TheseColorsDontRun · 08-19-2013, 11:33 AM

Dammit, I was hoping that I would be spared, but nope. I have crickets

Heard it for the first time today with the windows down in a parking garage. I guess I won't be getting any warranty-voiding exhaust systems now.

OrbitalEllipses · 08-19-2013, 12:05 PM

What does your exhaust system have to do with your high pressure fuel pump...

Asphalt~86 · 08-19-2013, 12:06 PM

I'm equally confused.

BoostinIX · 08-19-2013, 12:15 PM

Nothing to be confused about, it's another owner that doesn't know there is no "voided warranty". If a part negatively affected and caused something to fail, they can refuse warranty work on a specific failed problem. I.E. I threw on a big turbo and blew my motor, the motor damage isn't covered, but my bad wheel bearing still is.

It's a simple TSB, called Annapolis Subaru last week, 2 hour fix according to them.

TheseColorsDontRun · 08-19-2013, 12:57 PM

My research has turned up that there is no fix other than simply replacing the pump and praying. Has there been a pump revision that addresses the underlying issue?

I don't want to give a dealership any ammo in case something does break. Something like "your header put more stress on the motor than intended and yadda yadda yadda..."

malave7567 · 08-19-2013, 01:09 PM

From what I've seen, running pure gas (0% ethanol fuel) makes the chirps go away, and some owners running regular E10 have said it went away with more mileage on the car. I'm still only at about 2k miles myself and still chirping loudly. No ethanol-free gas stations near me either.

My brother in Oklahoma City has a BRZ and a ethanol-free gas station nearby. He didn't even know what the chirps were until he came down to visit me.

nataku · 08-19-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseColorsDontRun

Dammit, I was hoping that I would be spared, but nope. I have crickets

Heard it for the first time today with the windows down in a parking garage. I guess I won't be getting any warranty-voiding exhaust systems now.

You've got it all wrong. Nothing fixes the crickets better than making your car so loud you can't hear them.

camelflage · 08-19-2013, 01:46 PM

ive got the chirpings too... my girlfriend took hers in for the TSB, she has about 12k miles, still chirps.

Biggins · 08-19-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nataku

You've got it all wrong. Nothing fixes the crickets better than making your car so loud you can't hear them.

This works! ...but the crickets never bother me. It's not nearly as annoying as the 6 cylinder BMW tick tick tick.

Jaylyons1 · 08-19-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheseColorsDontRun

My research has turned up that there is no fix other than simply replacing the pump and praying. Has there been a pump revision that addresses the underlying issue?

I don't want to give a dealership any ammo in case something does break. Something like "your header put more stress on the motor than intended and yadda yadda yadda..."

Just FYI, they fixed mine and I had my cat-back on. Granted a cat-back is nothing crazy.

kanundrum · 08-19-2013, 03:46 PM

I have them for several months now and I don't care since this is not a performance issue and the car is not on fire nor do I want the car on fire.

TheseColorsDontRun · 08-19-2013, 03:51 PM

Anybody know of any cases of a failed HPFP? And what the residual damage would be?

I'm coming from a Golf TDI that also had HPFP issues. In those cars, when the pump goes, it grenades it self into millions of pieces and wipes out the whole fuel system. $8,000 repair bill.

OrbitalEllipses · 08-19-2013, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheseColorsDontRun

Anybody know of any cases of a failed HPFP? And what the residual damage would be?

I'm coming from a Golf TDI that also had HPFP issues. In those cars, when the pump goes, it grenades it self into millions of pieces and wipes out the whole fuel system. $8,000 repair bill.

None have failed to my knowledge. Only issues have been related improper installation by the dealer wrenchmonkeys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanundrum

I have them for several months now and I don't care since this is not a performance issue and the car is not on fire nor do I want the car on fire.

^This. @Opie has compiled information on what should be a permanent fix (something about boxes with green dots), but the issue ultimately is one that I won't address until dealers are more familiar with the procedure.

kanundrum · 08-19-2013, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

None have failed to my knowledge. Only issues have been related improper installation by the dealer wrenchmonkeys.

Correct the chirping is the result of lack of sound blocking material (as a new model HPFP suggest) nothing is wrong with the car it just chirps

08-19-2013, 11:33 AM	#1
TheseColorsDontRun Keep calm and drive on Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Limited 6M Location: Mt. Airy, MD Posts: 404 Thanks: 56 Thanked 169 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Chirp Chirp Chirp Dammit, I was hoping that I would be spared, but nope. I have crickets Heard it for the first time today with the windows down in a parking garage. I guess I won't be getting any warranty-voiding exhaust systems now.

08-19-2013, 12:15 PM	#4
BoostinIX Gettin SIKKY sideways Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: '97 S14.5 / '13 BRZ Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 1,136 Thanks: 280 Thanked 473 Times in 301 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Nothing to be confused about, it's another owner that doesn't know there is no "voided warranty". If a part negatively affected and caused something to fail, they can refuse warranty work on a specific failed problem. I.E. I threw on a big turbo and blew my motor, the motor damage isn't covered, but my bad wheel bearing still is. It's a simple TSB, called Annapolis Subaru last week, 2 hour fix according to them. __________________ Instagram: BoostinIX

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malave7567 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: (formerly) 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Houston, TX Posts: 396 Thanks: 117 Thanked 218 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	From what I've seen, running pure gas (0% ethanol fuel) makes the chirps go away, and some owners running regular E10 have said it went away with more mileage on the car. I'm still only at about 2k miles myself and still chirping loudly. No ethanol-free gas stations near me either. My brother in Oklahoma City has a BRZ and a ethanol-free gas station nearby. He didn't even know what the chirps were until he came down to visit me.

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camelflage Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: pinto power Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 709 Thanks: 76 Thanked 192 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	ive got the chirpings too... my girlfriend took hers in for the TSB, she has about 12k miles, still chirps.

08-19-2013, 03:51 PM	#12
TheseColorsDontRun Keep calm and drive on Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Limited 6M Location: Mt. Airy, MD Posts: 404 Thanks: 56 Thanked 169 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anybody know of any cases of a failed HPFP? And what the residual damage would be? I'm coming from a Golf TDI that also had HPFP issues. In those cars, when the pump goes, it grenades it self into millions of pieces and wipes out the whole fuel system. $8,000 repair bill.

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