Scratches from Window Usage? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DieselxIndustry · 05-01-2013, 11:26 AM

Has anyone noticed small vertical scratches forming near the center of the window? I am trying to get a picture of it, its just a hard shot to get. I've noticed them on both sides in the same spots.

OrbitalEllipses · 05-01-2013, 11:27 AM

Passenger side, dead middle of the window on the outside face. 2-3" vertical scratch that you can feel with your fingernail. I assume it came from the guide ribbon/track on the inside of the door. Haven't bothered with going to the dealer yet for time/they suck reasons.

Asphalt~86 · 05-01-2013, 11:37 AM

Also have them. Messed up my tint.

7thgear · 05-01-2013, 11:44 AM

this is a common problem with frame-less subaru doors. The window guides get dirty and scratch the window.
my Impreza had pretty noticable scratches. This is the same as never cleaning your wipers, they will scratch your windshield over time.

there are two ways to help prevent this/reduce severity

1. clean your windows! keep a rag in the car and clean the dust off the door windows, esp during warmer weather when you know you'll be rolling them down

2. regularly clean the liner when the window is fully down. Do this often in the summertime. I use a rag with a mild solvent and jam it in there and wipe.

and in general, think before you roll down. If you need to roll down your window and you see that it’s REALLY dirty, try not to.

You can also do the “fake fur” mod that the impreza guys have been doing for years. You take apart the door to get to the WINDOW GUIDES and clean them or glue on a piece of fake fur, this helps it slide better. Check up on it once a year.

Rayme · 05-01-2013, 11:57 AM

This is what happens with frameless windows. My celicas all had that "problem".

DieselxIndustry · 05-01-2013, 12:13 PM

Wow, I'm surprised so many people have this. It's a pretty stupid issue to have not fixed over the years though. I'm also really good about keeping my car clean so its pretty surprising if that is a contributing cause to the scratches forming. Curious what Toyota/Subaru will say long term.

jstn · 05-01-2013, 12:15 PM

No scratches on mine but they squeak like crazy when they're wet. Super annoying.

7thgear · 05-01-2013, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselxIndustry

Wow, I'm surprised so many people have this. It's a pretty stupid issue to have not fixed over the years though. I'm also really good about keeping my car clean so its pretty surprising if that is a contributing cause to the scratches forming. Curious what Toyota/Subaru will say long term.

do you get right into the window crevase when it's all the way down?

i also sometimes tape a piece of scotch where the guides are and roll up and down a few times to help clean it up the best i can

after the impreza i will do everything i can to reduce the scratches.

as for fixing, it's a 26k car, you get what you pay for.

DieselxIndustry · 05-01-2013, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear

do you get right into the window crevase when it's all the way down?

i also sometimes tape a piece of scotch where the guides are and roll up and down a few times to help clean it up the best i can

after the impreza i will do everything i can to reduce the scratches.

as for fixing, it's a 26k car, you get what you pay for.

Not as well as I should but I will now, and thanks for the advice, I will definitely try it. It's not bad enough yet to need fixing but my old Eclipse never did that and it was frameless and an even cheaper car.

Jayde · 05-01-2013, 09:26 PM

Just stating that my drivers side has scratches in two different areas of the window.

sharky23 · 05-05-2013, 12:56 AM

I've noticed two lines parallel to each other on both glasses driver/ passenger I figured it was the guides. Will the dealer replace your windows if the get scratched from this?

sho220 · 05-05-2013, 03:15 AM

Frameless windows seem to have a lot of problems...scratches, sticking in freezing weather, seals getting messed up, etc.

Any actual pro's to going with frameless over traditional?

WRXGuy1 · 05-07-2013, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220

Frameless windows seem to have a lot of problems...scratches, sticking in freezing weather, seals getting messed up, etc.

Any actual pro's to going with frameless over traditional?

It looks cooler with the window down when you open the door

Jayde · 05-07-2013, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRXGuy1

It looks cooler with the window down when you open the door

THIS!

:happy0180:

05-01-2013, 11:26 AM	#1
DieselxIndustry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: West Chicago Posts: 214 Thanks: 13 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Scratches from Window Usage? Has anyone noticed small vertical scratches forming near the center of the window? I am trying to get a picture of it, its just a hard shot to get. I've noticed them on both sides in the same spots.

05-01-2013, 11:44 AM	#4
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	this is a common problem with frame-less subaru doors. The window guides get dirty and scratch the window. my Impreza had pretty noticable scratches. This is the same as never cleaning your wipers, they will scratch your windshield over time. there are two ways to help prevent this/reduce severity 1. clean your windows! keep a rag in the car and clean the dust off the door windows, esp during warmer weather when you know you'll be rolling them down 2. regularly clean the liner when the window is fully down. Do this often in the summertime. I use a rag with a mild solvent and jam it in there and wipe. and in general, think before you roll down. If you need to roll down your window and you see that it’s REALLY dirty, try not to. You can also do the “fake fur” mod that the impreza guys have been doing for years. You take apart the door to get to the WINDOW GUIDES and clean them or glue on a piece of fake fur, this helps it slide better. Check up on it once a year. __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

05-01-2013, 11:57 AM	#5
Rayme The Answer Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Mazda 2 Location: Moncton, NB Posts: 1,233 Thanks: 488 Thanked 661 Times in 315 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is what happens with frameless windows. My celicas all had that "problem". __________________ \| Roof wrap thread

05-01-2013, 09:26 PM	#10
Jayde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Satin White Pearl BRZ Limited Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 2,310 Thanks: 751 Thanked 696 Times in 464 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Just stating that my drivers side has scratches in two different areas of the window. __________________ ◄Tri-State Owners Club, Facebook Group► *BRZerhood*

05-05-2013, 03:15 AM	#12
sho220 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT & FJ Cruiser Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,107 Thanks: 292 Thanked 653 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Frameless windows seem to have a lot of problems...scratches, sticking in freezing weather, seals getting messed up, etc. Any actual pro's to going with frameless over traditional? __________________ Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain That is pouring like an avalanche comin' down the mountain

05-01-2013, 11:27 AM	#2
OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Passenger side, dead middle of the window on the outside face. 2-3" vertical scratch that you can feel with your fingernail. I assume it came from the guide ribbon/track on the inside of the door. Haven't bothered with going to the dealer yet for time/they suck reasons.

05-01-2013, 11:37 AM	#3
Asphalt~86 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Asphalt AT Location: Midwest Posts: 813 Thanks: 324 Thanked 608 Times in 262 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also have them. Messed up my tint.

05-01-2013, 12:13 PM	#6
DieselxIndustry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: West Chicago Posts: 214 Thanks: 13 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow, I'm surprised so many people have this. It's a pretty stupid issue to have not fixed over the years though. I'm also really good about keeping my car clean so its pretty surprising if that is a contributing cause to the scratches forming. Curious what Toyota/Subaru will say long term.

05-01-2013, 12:15 PM	#7
jstn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: '15 Vortech Supercharged Location: United States Posts: 105 Thanks: 7 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No scratches on mine but they squeak like crazy when they're wet. Super annoying.

05-05-2013, 12:56 AM	#11
sharky23 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine Location: Riversid, CA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've noticed two lines parallel to each other on both glasses driver/ passenger I figured it was the guides. Will the dealer replace your windows if the get scratched from this?

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