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Old 02-04-2019, 03:45 PM   #1
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Right oil temp for higher revs

Hello everybody,

I've recently installed an OBD2 dongle together with the matching app, and was wondering at what oil temp I could start getting the engine in the higher rev range. In current use (and more or less freezing temperatures), it needs about 10 miles / 20 minutes before it stabilizes in the 180s - 190s.

Car's completely stock and using the Toyota 0W20 oil.

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Old 02-04-2019, 03:49 PM   #2
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Your water temp is a more important factor than your oil temp when it comes to revving it out. As long as your coolant is at normal operating temp (180-220 deg F) you're fine, which usually happens after just a few miles depending on ambient temp.
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Your water temp is a more important factor than your oil temp when it comes to revving it out. As long as your coolant is at normal operating temp (180-220 deg F) you're fine, which usually happens after just a few miles depending on ambient temp.
Now there ya go. Nothing else needs to be said - for fear it will trigger ANOTHER back-in-the-day story -


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Most high quality (ester base) oils don't protect below 70-73C degrees so regardless of what your water temp is you should give enough time for the oil to reach those temperatures
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I have the pivot dual gauge (OBD) for oil temp. and I don't run above 4000 rpm until my oil is at least 80 C (176 F). A number I determined from exhaustive internet research and the reading here on the forum.
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Your water temp is a more important factor than your oil temp when it comes to revving it out. As long as your coolant is at normal operating temp (180-220 deg F) you're fine, which usually happens after just a few miles depending on ambient temp.
Well I don’t agree with that at all. This is fake news
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Most high quality (ester base) oils don't protect below 70-73C degrees so regardless of what your water temp is you should give enough time for the oil to reach those temperatures
This is real news
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Most high quality (ester base) oils don't protect below 70-73C degrees so regardless of what your water temp is you should give enough time for the oil to reach those temperatures
This. Oil being up to temp is more important that worrying about coolant temp. It will warm up slower than coolant temp.

Coolant temp will only matter when it's too cold (in which case oil will be as well) or overheating.
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OK, oil yes, water yes. The whole darn engine should be up to temp before wringing the blank out of it.
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True, but if oil is up to temp, chances are water temp has been up to temp
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OK, oil yes, water yes. The whole darn engine should be up to temp before wringing the blank out of it.
Damn kids these days - bouncing a stone cold engine off of the rev limiter. SMH
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Damn kids these days - bouncing a stone cold engine off of the rev limiter. SMH
Lucky our cars aren't 2-strokes. Always get my sled water temp up before I wring her out. Full throttle on an ice cold 2-stroke is just asking to stick a piston.
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I redline it a couple half dozen times in the driveway when it snows to get it warm faster.

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