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bhmax · 05-24-2017, 08:57 PM

Has anyone had any luck ordering these recently? Sent a request a few days ago to MCA through their website but haven't heard back.

Gforce · 05-24-2017, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhmax

Has anyone had any luck ordering these recently? Sent a request a few days ago to MCA through their website but haven't heard back.

They're a small outfit and often take a while to reply. Typical for Oz. Very laid back lifestyle. They will get back to you. Great guys to deal with.

They're probably out racing, that's what they do.

Also remember its always tomorrow there so avoid emailing them on our Friday or Saturday, they'll be closed.

bhmax · 06-05-2017, 09:44 PM

For those looking to get these, I still haven't heard back from MCA. I ended up ordering from MRT Performance.

ApexEight · 06-07-2017, 12:59 AM

Unfortunate that they're $320 USD but if you convert the Australian pricr to dollars it's like $270.

cbryant514 · 06-09-2017, 03:41 PM

I ordered my pair 5-24-17 and received them 6-8-17.

ApexEight · 06-09-2017, 05:50 PM

I took a left turn at an intersection pretty quickly the other day and was astonished at how much grip the car had; it felt like it was on rails. It felt like it hunched down and really grabbed the road. The thing is, I can't always replicate that feeling, even on the same turn. It's only happened once. The other times it just feels like all the weight and compression is on the front suspension and overworking the front tires while the rear doesn't hunch down and grip very much. I'm an ok driver with lots to learn. Will these help give me that "on rails" feeling? I crave it. I'm on stock suspension. 2014 FR-S 6 speed, relatively stock on all-season Toyos.

I've got a Strano front 22mm sway bar and camber bolts waiting to go in.

Gforce · 06-09-2017, 07:38 PM

MCA brackets move roll stiffness forward a bit, that's how they get you extra traction.

The 22 mm front bar is pretty fierce for stock rear springs. Increasing front camber will help a bit.

Fitting Bilstein shocks will help a lot. The stock rear shocks are just not a good match for the stock rear springs. Had you not gone up to a 22 mm front bar (is the Strano solid or tubular?) I would recommend you consider fitting 2017 rear springs with the Bilsteins.

Softer rear springs get you even more traction but move the roll stiffness even further forwards. A stock 2017 rear bar (15 mm so about 30% stiffer) could help offset that if you went with the softer rear springs. Other aftermarket suppliers offer 16 mm rear bars, Whiteline's rear bar has three adjustment holes giving a lot of options in terms of total bar stiffness.

Also, be careful you don't confuse off camber road surface effects with roll stiffness effects. These cars are quite prone to drift a little on reverse or off camber turns.

JeremyR · 08-24-2017, 02:06 PM

Dumb question time: Would these have any benefit on a lowered car? Car already has adjustable trail, toe, and lower control arms. lowered maybe 2 inches or so on coilovers..

johan · 08-24-2017, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyR

Dumb question time: Would these have any benefit on a lowered car? Car already has adjustable trail, toe, and lower control arms. lowered maybe 2 inches or so on coilovers..

The effect is diminished on a lowered car since lowering changes the angle of the rear trailing arms.

e30cabrio · 01-29-2021, 12:06 PM

Ordered this Wednesday, was quite the adventure as they don't have international shipping from the site. Process started Monday.

gpvecchi · 01-29-2021, 04:04 PM

What are the defects of this mod?

whataboutbob · 01-29-2021, 08:42 PM

From my experience, it was cheaper to order this part from Fensport in the UK Vs. direct from MCA in Australia.

https://www.fensport.co.uk/collectio...ckets-gt86-brz

e30cabrio · 01-29-2021, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

From my experience, it was cheaper to order this part from Fensport in the UK Vs. direct from MCA in Australia.

https://www.fensport.co.uk/collectio...ckets-gt86-brz

I paid 360 USD shipped. That works out to 394.92.

That will allow immediate purchase as opposed I had to wait for them to generate an invoice, respond to questions and then pay via Paypal.

I might have preferred to pay the extra 35 bucks to not have to wait.

NoHaveMSG · 01-30-2021, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

What are the defects of this mod?

I believe it has a slight negative effect on roll center.

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05-24-2017, 08:57 PM	#71
bhmax Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 13 BRZ, 16 FiST, 05 WRX Location: AL Posts: 291 Thanks: 377 Thanked 96 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Has anyone had any luck ordering these recently? Sent a request a few days ago to MCA through their website but haven't heard back.

06-05-2017, 09:44 PM	#73
bhmax Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 13 BRZ, 16 FiST, 05 WRX Location: AL Posts: 291 Thanks: 377 Thanked 96 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	For those looking to get these, I still haven't heard back from MCA. I ended up ordering from MRT Performance.

06-07-2017, 12:59 AM	#74
ApexEight Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT SSM Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 293 Thanks: 195 Thanked 68 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unfortunate that they're $320 USD but if you convert the Australian pricr to dollars it's like $270.

06-09-2017, 03:41 PM	#75
cbryant514 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: 2016 Scion FR-S Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 56 Thanks: 73 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I ordered my pair 5-24-17 and received them 6-8-17.

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ApexEight Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT SSM Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 293 Thanks: 195 Thanked 68 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I took a left turn at an intersection pretty quickly the other day and was astonished at how much grip the car had; it felt like it was on rails. It felt like it hunched down and really grabbed the road. The thing is, I can't always replicate that feeling, even on the same turn. It's only happened once. The other times it just feels like all the weight and compression is on the front suspension and overworking the front tires while the rear doesn't hunch down and grip very much. I'm an ok driver with lots to learn. Will these help give me that "on rails" feeling? I crave it. I'm on stock suspension. 2014 FR-S 6 speed, relatively stock on all-season Toyos. I've got a Strano front 22mm sway bar and camber bolts waiting to go in.

06-09-2017, 07:38 PM	#77
Gforce Banned Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Alberta Posts: 519 Thanks: 39 Thanked 161 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	MCA brackets move roll stiffness forward a bit, that's how they get you extra traction. The 22 mm front bar is pretty fierce for stock rear springs. Increasing front camber will help a bit. Fitting Bilstein shocks will help a lot. The stock rear shocks are just not a good match for the stock rear springs. Had you not gone up to a 22 mm front bar (is the Strano solid or tubular?) I would recommend you consider fitting 2017 rear springs with the Bilsteins. Softer rear springs get you even more traction but move the roll stiffness even further forwards. A stock 2017 rear bar (15 mm so about 30% stiffer) could help offset that if you went with the softer rear springs. Other aftermarket suppliers offer 16 mm rear bars, Whiteline's rear bar has three adjustment holes giving a lot of options in terms of total bar stiffness. Also, be careful you don't confuse off camber road surface effects with roll stiffness effects. These cars are quite prone to drift a little on reverse or off camber turns.

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JeremyR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 487 Thanks: 613 Thanked 269 Times in 181 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dumb question time: Would these have any benefit on a lowered car? Car already has adjustable trail, toe, and lower control arms. lowered maybe 2 inches or so on coilovers..

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e30cabrio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2017 86 Location: West Valley Posts: 144 Thanks: 18 Thanked 27 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ordered this Wednesday, was quite the adventure as they don't have international shipping from the site. Process started Monday.

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gpvecchi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Toyota 86 GT Limited PP (Model G) Location: Italy Posts: 1,018 Thanks: 406 Thanked 335 Times in 187 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What are the defects of this mod?

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