follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-05-2021, 10:20 PM   #1
kiefferlmeridew
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Drives: 2013 BRZ Sport-Tech
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Unhappy Window Scratches

Good evening everyone! I'm new to the forum, so please gime me a bit of leeway lol

Not sure if there's a thread already for what I'm wondering about but here it goes!

I have a 2013 BRZ, with the usual window scratches. I've heard that it's the guides getting crap all over them and causing it. Going to try and buff them out with cerium oxide tomorrow, as they aren't that bad. However, the question I am wondering is if anyone is rocking just the inner guides, and removed the outer. I've read that if you get the post 2013 weather stripping /guide for the door it can help drastically with the repeat scratching from occurring, but would love to hear some stories and things that have worked for everyone!

Thanks for letting me be part of this community! Super excited and loving my baby BRZ already!

Much love from Canada!

kiefferlmeridew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2021, 11:04 PM   #2
radroach
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: car
Location: usa
Posts: 2,162
Thanks: 1,028
Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
You might look into taking apart your door and trying to clean out the junk in your windows, and maybe find a clean window from a wrecker.

First I'd probably need to check to make sure you're using a proper polisher like a Rupes, or a G110, or a Torqx. A 3" backing plate. A quality polishing compound product like Ceriglass and not some alibaba cerium oxide, and the Carpro 3" rayon polishing pads. I say this because some of you guys seem ready to jump into a detail with some garbage you picked up from ebay or harbor freight, frightening. If you just ordered a bucket of brown cerium oxide powder, please stop right there.

I would be very careful with Ceriglass on these cars. Ceriglass is some nasty polishing stuff, very messy and slings everywhere (you'll want to tape off and cover everything) and rayon pads are very rough.. and Subaru BRZ / modern car glass is very soft.

I've used Carpro's Ceriglass and Carpro Ryon glass polishing pads only on the front windshield of my older 90's Toyota Camry. After a few passes with my DA buffer it fixed a lot of lateral or cobweb scratches that were caused by sand debris caught between the wiper and the glass. It would be important to note though, that modern car glass is softer than 90's car glass and so you might be careful to not work it too aggressively, but enough to break down the abrasive material.


Last edited by radroach; 12-05-2021 at 11:19 PM.
radroach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2022, 01:48 PM   #3
StraightOuttaCanadaEh
Wes
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: Artisan Spirits '17 86
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,792
Thanks: 1,163
Thanked 1,673 Times in 993 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I took my car to the dealer a month before the warranty ran out and got them to replace the windows, guide rails and weather stripping. Got rid of the scratches but I can see the lines on the windows and can tell it's only a matter of time until it happens again, so I don't think the post-2013 guides are any better. I just consciously roll the window down a lot less now, especially if it's dirty. Shouldn't be driving with windows down anyway due to all the brake dust and rubber crap you're breathing in
__________________
Instagram: @gt86ws
StraightOuttaCanadaEh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2022, 03:29 PM   #4
Ultramaroon
義理チョコ
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 31,825
Thanks: 52,063
Thanked 36,469 Times in 18,894 Posts
Mentioned: 1106 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.
__________________
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
DarkPira7e (11-21-2022)
Old 11-21-2022, 07:14 PM   #5
DarkPira7e
Rust bucket enthusiast
 
DarkPira7e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS
Location: Vermont
Posts: 3,926
Thanks: 3,196
Thanked 4,094 Times in 2,044 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultramaroon View Post
Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.
This was one of the first things I did with mine when I fixed door rattles. After years of frameless subaru doors, I knew it'd be a thing.
__________________
Turbo FR-S Build - Build Thread
JDL EL Recirc manifold, Boostlab BL58x Turbo w/ T51R, 17x9 ARC-8, IAG block
DarkPira7e is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DarkPira7e For This Useful Post:
Ultramaroon (11-21-2022), x808drifter (11-23-2022)
Old 11-21-2022, 10:03 PM   #6
SCFD
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Drives: FR-S
Location: USA
Posts: 171
Thanks: 313
Thanked 70 Times in 50 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh View Post
I took my car to the dealer a month before the warranty ran out and got them to replace the windows, guide rails and weather stripping. Got rid of the scratches but I can see the lines on the windows and can tell it's only a matter of time until it happens again, so I don't think the post-2013 guides are any better. I just consciously roll the window down a lot less now, especially if it's dirty. Shouldn't be driving with windows down anyway due to all the brake dust and rubber crap you're breathing in

How did you get it covered under warranty? I figured those would be considered normal wear items?
SCFD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2022, 10:41 PM   #7
Ultramaroon
義理チョコ
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 31,825
Thanks: 52,063
Thanked 36,469 Times in 18,894 Posts
Mentioned: 1106 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkPira7e View Post
This was one of the first things I did with mine when I fixed door rattles. After years of frameless subaru doors, I knew it'd be a thing.
Was my first. Holy kinematics, Batman! Each adjustment affects all the others.

Those felt pads are bullshit. Every time I handle one, I fantasize about creating a spring-loaded roller. I get it, though. Would be tough to hit the price point of the factory part.
__________________
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
DarkPira7e (11-21-2022)
Old 11-22-2022, 11:50 AM   #8
StraightOuttaCanadaEh
Wes
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: Artisan Spirits '17 86
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,792
Thanks: 1,163
Thanked 1,673 Times in 993 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCFD View Post
How did you get it covered under warranty? I figured those would be considered normal wear items?
I showed them a facebook thread with a bunch of people complaining of the same thing. They scheduled the appointment *shrug*
__________________
Instagram: @gt86ws
StraightOuttaCanadaEh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 07:25 PM   #9
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,399
Thanks: 26,057
Thanked 12,400 Times in 6,129 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultramaroon View Post
Window mechanism is very sensitive to adjustment. I noticed mine binding right away. Took many attempts to find the sweet spot but worth it. No scratches after eight years.
Wait, so what did you actually do? Replace the guides and such or just adjust what was there? I just assumed everyone would have the scratches sooner or later.
__________________
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a model is worth ten thousand pictures.
Also: "Build Thread"
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
x808drifter (11-27-2022)
Old 11-26-2022, 11:18 PM   #10
Ultramaroon
義理チョコ
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 31,825
Thanks: 52,063
Thanked 36,469 Times in 18,894 Posts
Mentioned: 1106 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
Wait, so what did you actually do? Replace the guides and such or just adjust what was there? I just assumed everyone would have the scratches sooner or later.
I adjusted the tracks and guides to find the minimum force on the pads that allow the window to raise and lower without rattling anywhere in it's travel. I can find the sweet spot more quickly now but it took me a long time to become familiar with how the whole system "wants" to be set.
__________________
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
Spuds (11-27-2022), x808drifter (11-27-2022)
 
Reply

Tags
guides, replacing, scratching, trim, window

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scratches on Outside of Driver's Window NewmarketBRZ Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 56 09-26-2018 04:57 PM
Window scratches Flako Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 45 11-12-2016 03:32 AM
Window scratches? 02.ACCORD.DUDE Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) 6 11-11-2015 01:49 AM
Scratches from Window Usage? DieselxIndustry Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 27 03-08-2015 08:03 PM
Scratches on front window B-R-Z BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 2 06-22-2014 10:49 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.