I need help with Full Blown Turbo Kit

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

I was talking about clutch styles. The way the clutch is (puck style or full faced) determines how easily you can drive it.

Interesting you say 300lb ft of tq...
HP = T x N /(5252)
HP = 300tq x 7200rpm /(5252)
HP = 411

If you can manage that on 91 gas...

Id go with a full faced clutch. Easiest to drive. Dont get a clutch that is rated for the torque you have, get a clutch thats rated for more tq.

This formula is for engine horsepower, correct me if I am wrong. With all the coefficients and other variable. There will be about 350 WHP. So the 411 HP is just how much the engine pushes and as it get down the wheel its 350 ish (random value)


Okay, lets say I get the FBM STG1 and just a 3" perrin catback.... That will only make me have like 250whp and like 200ft-lb on 91 (7psi)
Which clutch should I get.. I drive the car daily (or every 2 days LOL). Street not track build. Someone suggest me the 6puck ACT that comes with a flywheel. Exedy and Clutchmaster are OP

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

This formula is for engine horsepower, correct me if I am wrong. With all the coefficients and other variable. There will be about 350 WHP. So the 411 HP is just how much the engine pushes and as it get down the wheel its 350 ish (random value)


Okay, lets say I get the FBM STG1 and just a 3" perrin catback.... That will only make me have like 250whp and like 200ft-lb on 91 (7psi)
Which clutch should I get.. I drive the car daily (or every 2 days LOL). Street not track build. Someone suggest me the 6puck ACT that comes with a flywheel. Exedy and Clutchmaster are OP

Crank hp is what the clutch will deal with.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/exed...h-kit-965.html
Exedy stage 2

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/act-...rmal-1403.html
ACT 6puck

The exedy is full faced (drives easier) and $200 less than the act.

[Dipstik-sportech]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

This formula is for engine horsepower, correct me if I am wrong. With all the coefficients and other variable. There will be about 350 WHP. So the 411 HP is just how much the engine pushes and as it get down the wheel its 350 ish (random value)


Okay, lets say I get the FBM STG1 and just a 3" perrin catback.... That will only make me have like 250whp and like 200ft-lb on 91 (7psi)
Which clutch should I get.. I drive the car daily (or every 2 days LOL). Street not track build. Someone suggest me the 6puck ACT that comes with a flywheel. Exedy and Clutchmaster are OP

If you're only going for 7psi and 250whp I'd stick with the stock clutch and the fx300 when the stock one dies.

[Reaper]

No need for a clutch until you hit 300whp. Try the stock one out for awhile. Don't forget the act 6 puck comes with a flywheel. It's also less forgiving than a full faced clutch and not really needed unless your on e85.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Crank hp is what the clutch will deal with.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/exed...h-kit-965.html
Exedy stage 2

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/act-...rmal-1403.html
ACT 6puck

The exedy is full faced (drives easier) and $200 less than the act.

The exedy says to be 228 wheel ft-lb
I will be pushing 250 ft-lb
300ish whp

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

If you're only going for 7psi and 250whp I'd stick with the stock clutch and the fx300 when the stock one dies.

What if I do a little more than 300 whp, since I will do weight reduction, and change the pulleys so it might go more than 300whp
I will also get a nice catback that will add 2 whp LOL, joke....
Seriously, a nice tune on 7 PSI and GTX28 turbo @91 octane rating gas... I am sure the car can push 300whp or more

Originally Posted by Reaper

No need for a clutch until you hit 300whp. Try the stock one out for awhile. Don't forget the act 6 puck comes with a flywheel. It's also less forgiving than a full faced clutch and not really needed unless your on e85.

So a full faced clutch is easier to drive around with and more outstanding?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

Okay, lets say I get the FBM STG1 and just a 3" perrin catback.... That will only make me have like 250whp and like 200ft-lb on 91 (7psi)
Which clutch should I get.. I drive the car daily (or every 2 days LOL). Street not track build. Someone suggest me the 6puck ACT that comes with a flywheel. Exedy and Clutchmaster are OP

Stock clutch, but you are wasting the kit if you only make that much power and torque. This is what you want with your FBM Stage 1 kit, and then you will want the ACT full face or 6 puck. I went 6 puck, and I daily drove it:

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

The exedy says to be 228 wheel ft-lb
I will be pushing 250 ft-lb
300ish whp

What if I do a little more than 300 whp, since I will do weight reduction, and change the pulleys so it might go more than 300whp
I will also get a nice catback that will add 2 whp LOL, joke....
Seriously, a nice tune on 7 PSI and GTX28 turbo @91 octane rating gas... I am sure the car can push 300whp or more

So a full faced clutch is easier to drive around with and more outstanding?

Don't buy Exedy. Twin disc and stage 2 owners have had issues with them.

GTX28 should be able to do 300 whp even on crappy 91.

A full faced clutch is easier to slip and thus easier to drive.

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Don't buy Exedy. Twin disc and stage 2 owners have had issues with them.

GTX28 should be able to do 300 whp even on crappy 91.

A full faced clutch is easier to slip and thus easier to drive.

Do you have a build journal =p? I don't want more than 300 whp. I want to stick with that 550cc injector


Everyone keeps suggesting different clutches. I want a daily driven and street performing clutch. If you say faced clutched are better than I shall get a full faced clutch? Like what advantage does a 6 puck has over that full faced clutch?

[Mikeez]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Stock clutch, but you are wasting the kit if you only make that much power and torque. This is what you want with your FBM Stage 1 kit, and then you will want the ACT full face or 6 puck. I went 6 puck, and I daily drove it:

What was the boost pressure and gas rating used for that dyno test? You are using the GTX28?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

Do you have a build journal =p? I don't want more than 300 whp. I want to stick with that 550cc injector

Everyone keeps suggesting different clutches. I want a daily driven and street performing clutch. If you say faced clutched are better than I shall get a full faced clutch? Like what advantage does a 6 puck has over that full faced clutch?

The advantage it has is more torque holding capability. The ability for a full face clutch to slip and be easier to drive and launch is also the same reason that once it sees enough torque it will no longer be able to hold it and will start slipping. I have had buddies that added more power and had slipping clutches and it sucks. I didn't take a chance and went with the ACT 6 puck right off the bat before I even had my turbo kit. I do have a couple build threads you can read:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15784
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29761

I am sure you have read through this one:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42491

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Mikeez

What was the boost pressure and gas rating used for that dyno test? You are using the GTX28?

GT2871R

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Don't buy Exedy. Twin disc and stage 2 owners have had issues with them.

GTX28 should be able to do 300 whp even on crappy 91.

A full faced clutch is easier to slip and thus easier to drive.

Oh lawd. I didnt even see that thread. Whats wrong with the TD? Thank god CM makes full faced ceramics and TD's too.

[Dipstik-sportech]

The ceramic clutches are more tolerant to heat and slipping than an organic clutch. If you're not drag racing or doing multiple hard launches I'd stick with a full faced clutch. I over powered my 6 puck ceramic CM so they're not indestructable.

[Reaper]

I made 460whp on 550cc injectors.