need some advice on a used 86

[coolguy1o1]

So Im specifically looking for a 2015 frs with under 60000 miles. I heard the 13-14 had some problems which were resolved with the 15. Is this right? Also the 15 is more in my price range than the 16-17. Im looking to get a AT, are there are major issues with this transmission? Is there anything else I should look for? I found a 15 with 46000 miles for 15.5k, which I think i can get for at least 15K. Would that be a fair price for that year and mileage? Any help would be really appreciated.

[Mr.ac]

Yes you are correct. The '15s have a better engine management thingy. Very minor compared to the older models, but not enough to make you say wow or even notice.

As for the automatic tranny, eh... there are some reports of it being buggy when you push it hard for a long time at a track or such. But not where it explodes or dies.

$15k for that mileage is about right.

Just make sure it hasn't been messed with, you never know what kind of shitty tune or cheap headers they slapped on. Always start off with an un-molested car.

Others might chime in shortly.

Happy hunting.

[FR-Sky]

Go find a technician and get an inspection.
It should be around $80-100.

[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

Go find a technician and get an inspection.
It should be around $80-100.

Piff I'll do for a $20 and/or beer/pizza.
And I'll tell you the same exact thing a "tech" aka mofo-canhic would say. I'll even kick the tires for free.

[mrg666]

The valve spring problem did not apply to my '14 FR-S. So 2014 can be considered as well if you check the VIN number. There are no other problems with 2014 compared to 2015.

I would go with an unmodified twin but you still can't know how it was handled. I would make sure to have an inspection by a dependable technician. MT transmissions of twins are weaker than AT and they are especially abused by untalented drivers.

[Tcoat]

The 14s and up have no real history of issues. The 13s have a pretty poor record but that does not mean they are all bad either. There are loads of guys driving high mileage 13s that have never had a hiccup.

[guybo]

Pay $100 for a PPI and the mechanic will find at least $200 worth if problems to knock off the sticker price. Put it up in the air, scan for codes and miles since codes were cleared and TCU codes too.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by mrg666

The valve spring problem did not apply to my '14 FR-S. So 2014 can be considered as well if you check the VIN number. There are no other problems with 2014 compared to 2015.

I would go with an unmodified twin but you still can't know how it was handled. I would make sure to have an inspection by a dependable technician. MT transmissions of twins are weaker than AT and they are especially abused by untalented drivers.

I wouldn't call the MT weaker. Just susceptible to dumb asses like any other MT. ATs are dummy proof because they are always the boss and ignore you when you ask it to do something stupid. MT does come with your typical wear items like clutch disk, PP, flywheel and TOB. Seems most people go 100k on the clutch, PP and FW. The TOB on mid 2017 and older has a defective TOB which fails long before the clutch. It's a $20 part but lots of labor cost to replace. You can get a kit which includes clutch disk, PP, FW, TOB and pilot bearing for $380 which is really cheap compared to many cars.

[coolguy1o1]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

Go find a technician and get an inspection.
It should be around $80-100.

It’s at a Toyota dealership, don’t they do an inspection or is that just bullshit?


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[Tcoat]

99% of the time you can trust that dealership inspection. They don't want to sell you a car that is going to haunt them later any more than you want to buy it. But if you get that 1% from a shady dealer you are gonna have a bad time.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by mrg666

MT transmissions of twins are weaker than AT and they are especially abused by untalented drivers.

I like that - "untalented drivers" -


humfrz

[Leonardo]

Get the newest, (clean title) lowest mile car, in the color you want, and at the price you can afford.


I also think that a 2013 at the right price could be good for some people. Some see problems, others see opportunity. I mean, my base 2013 FR-S has been nearly flawless for 77,000 miles. And the recall is covered, so that's only an issue if you want it to be.


I like the newer trim packages available now though... And it's probably easier to find a newer one in good condition still.


BTW, I still enjoy my AT and do not regret buying it after 6.5 years.



Good Luck!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

Get the newest, (clean title) lowest mile car, in the color you want, and at the price you can afford.


I also think that a 2013 at the right price could be good for some people. Some see problems, others see opportunity. I mean, my base 2013 FR-S has been nearly flawless for 77,000 miles. And the recall is covered, so that's only an issue if you want it to be.


I like the newer trim packages available now though... And it's probably easier to find a newer one in good condition still.


Good Luck!

[adalah]

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