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View Poll Results: Are you experiencing the same problem?
Yes - I have an aftermarket intake only. 14 9.27%
Yes - I have an aftermarket intake and a tune. 15 9.93%
Yes - I'm all stock. 10 6.62%
No - I have an aftermarket intake only. 43 28.48%
No - I have an aftermarket intake and a tune. 3 1.99%
No - I'm all stock. 66 43.71%
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:52 PM   #141
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If you need/want an Injen intake, I can try to talk to Adrian and see if he can send you one. Did he every drop you an email?
No, only Airaid contacted me
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:06 PM   #142
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Try starting out on a very steep hill, you'll experience it quite a bit.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #143
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Try starting out on a very steep hill, you'll experience it quite a bit.
Or in rush hour traffic.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:23 AM   #144
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My AIRAID intake should be coming in within the next few days and now I am hesitant to install it over the weekend.

Reading back on the development thread for this intake, there was good consideration on the MAF location. Also, the AFR readings layered the stock intake AFR well also. I would think AIRAID did not experience any of the MAF issues before they went to mass fabrication.

This is really puzzling.

Having said that there is a 30day money back guarantee so its pretty straightforward to go on from there.
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:54 PM   #145
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All intakes are going to give an issue.
Run 2(Red) - Stock
Run 12(Blue) - Tune Only (ECUTek)
Run 19(Green) - Tune w/ Catback Exhaust (Perrin)
Run 27(Purple) - Tune w/ Catback Exhaust & Intake (Perrin/Injen)


http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2399592


BTW, my post did not have a vendor violation. I'm suggesting a vendor, I am not a vendor myself. So again;

All intakes are going to give an issue. If you want the real solution you need to hit up The Shop, so far their tune is the only one I came across that gains good power, and has no bog with the intakes they have uses the far.

http://www.theshopct.com

203-847-5791 - Ask for Jimmy and let him know you saw the post on FT86club.com

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All intakes are going to give an issue. If you want the real solution you need to hit up The Shop, so far their tune is the only one I came across that gains good power, and has no bog with the intakes they have uses the far.

http://www.theshopct.com

203-847-5791 - Ask for Jimmy and let him know you saw the post on FT86club.com

Run 2(Red) - Stock
Run 12(Blue) - Tune Only (ECUTek)
Run 19(Green) - Tune w/ Catback Exhaust (Perrin)
Run 27(Purple) - Tune w/ Catback Exhaust & Intake (Perrin/Injen)

If you contact them ask for Jimmy and let him know you saw a post on FT86club.com and he will get you taken care of.

Here is a link to their project BRZ, in my opinion they are the only shop that are documenting each product available correctly.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2399592
It also looks like The Shop is the only tune that doesn't alleviate the dip.

The bog isn't related to the tune, it's related to the intake. I get the same bog with a stock tune.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:12 PM   #147
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It also looks like The Shop is the only tune that doesn't alleviate the dip.

The bog isn't related to the tune, it's related to the intake. I get the same bog with a stock tune.
No the "Bog" is not related to the intake, no matter how many times you want to claim that, and if that is the case then why does the Poll for this thread show 6 People who are Stock complaining of the same issue.

We have already offered you to send it back, so we can check it out and you refuse to do so. You keep attempting to blame this issue on the Intake, even through it's not the cause of it.

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Old 09-04-2012, 01:31 PM   #148
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Well goodness, if only I wasn't color blind, maybe these charts would be helpful...
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You knew exactly what I meant I am sure.
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No the "Bog" is not related to the intake, no matter how many times you want to claim that, and if that is the case then why does the Poll for this thread show 6 People who are Stock complaining of the same issue.

We have already offered you to send it back, so we can check it out and you refuse to do so. You keep attempting to blame this issue on the Intake, even through it's not the cause of it.

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David, maybe you didn't understand what MY experience is with YOUR product. You seem to want to assign accountability elsewhere. Let me break this down for you.

1) My car ran perfect prior to YOUR intake. Never had a bog or single issue. Regardless of what tune or mod I threw on.

2) I added YOUR intake while on the e85 tune. Bogging.

3) I swapped back to stock intake on the e85 tune. No Issues.

4) I swapped back to YOUR intake and changed back to the stock tune. Bogging.

5) I swapped to Viscontis 1.02 tune while on YOUR intake. Bogging.

So to recap:

Tune + Stock Intake = Fine
Stock Tune + Stock Intake = Fine
Tune + AIRAID Intake = Problems
Stock Tune + AIRAID Intake = Problems

Do you see a common denominator in that scenario? The problems are there and VERY real. In case you missed my prior post. Here's a recap:

1st gear take off, violent bog, 60-75% throttle:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8QIea5h_Y"]2012 09 02 11 25 36 - YouTube[/ame]


Fresh shift bog, WOT, no power:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzi6OafbICw"]2012 09 02 11 26 36 - YouTube[/ame]


Shift to 2nd bog, WOT, jerking:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=214gWCgfqhQ"]2012 09 02 11 27 51 - YouTube[/ame]

So tell me, is this normal STOCK TUNE behavior that the car should exhibit? Don't tell me where my problems lie. I'm not stupid. And I'm not accepting your offer unless I can get a guarantee from @AJUSA.com that I'll be eligible for a FULL REFUND after you spend a couple weeks shipping, examining, and shipping again....should the problem still be there.

And if you're so sure, explain to me why YOUR BOSS sent Visctoni a free intake to try and fix the problem?
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Woah just checked out the bogging videos and that is terrible. As I said in the airaid feedback thread mine does not bog at all, yes the revs don't pick up as fast as the stock intake but there is no power hesitation or "flat spots" of any kind. I did a bunch of city drivinga, the 5 mph test and around here there are hills everywhere but I cannot rep this bogging issue at all. I've logged about 2 hours worth of driving now on the intake as well and no issues.
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Woah just checked out the bogging videos and that is terrible. As I said in the airaid feedback thread mine does not big at ask, yes the revs don't pick up as fast as the stock intake but there is no power hesitation or "flat spots" of any kind. I did a bunch of city drivinga, the 5 mph test and around here there are hills everywhere but I cannot rep this bogging issue at all. I've logged about 2 hours worth of driving now on the intake as well and no issues.
Yea, I'm not saying every case is like mine. I'm actually quite sure that mine is on the extreme end of the spectrum. But as a vendor, they have no right telling me where my problem is. That pisses me off.
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Could it not be your air sensor and the way you are installing it into the Airraid intake is causing the problem?

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Yea, I'm not saying every case is like mine. I'm actually quite sure that mine is on the extreme end of the spectrum. But as a vendor, they have no right telling me where my problem is. That pisses me off.
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