Make Car Fast w/ No Turbo - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SubiNewbie · 02-04-2014, 03:43 PM

Understanding that I don't want to void the warranty so quickly. I understand there is CAI and new Exhaust, reduction in spare tires will help. What else can increase horsepower lets say an extra 15-20?

I saw Perrin CAI can increase it by 9+ hp, Injen 9 - 12HP. Also to mention that new exhaust can increase between 1 to as much as 6 hp. I saw a Stage II CAI, but honestly I'm a little weary of those because I'm not sure why Stage II CAI differences between Stage I when I see both can produce just as much Horsepower as the other.

Mind you I'm a greenhorn so I don't know too much, so please enlighten me with your wisdom. I wish to find a way to push it to 250 without voiding the warranty.

drewbot · 02-04-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SubiNewbie

I wish to find a way to push it to 250 without voiding the warranty.

Gains from mods are not necessarily "stackable", where you all the gains from each bolt on just adds onto the peak HP.

As for without "voiding" the warranty, you're pretty much SOL for reaching 250 WHP or maybe even crank HP without some form of forced induction

MightyMeeple · 02-04-2014, 03:52 PM

What he said ^^^

Basically impossible to get meaningful gains without voiding the warranty. Drive the car for 3 years/36K miles, enjoy it, then go with an aftermarket header/overpipe and a tune and you will see some great gains.

Pegasus · 02-04-2014, 04:07 PM

Toyobaru pretty much did everything possible to get the most power out of a NA 2 liter. Headers, Direct & Multi-port injection, DOHC, heck they just designed the dang thing. So at this point, there isn't much you can do. Honda got 240hp out of their S2000 but there is less friction in a Inline 4 than a flat 4 and Honda has a secret weapon. VTECH.

So basically its go boost or go home, companys try everything to get out of warranty anyhow. If they see you put a different screw in somewhere they could try and wiggle out of it. Just leave it until warranty is gone like the rest of us, it won't be to long.

reeves · 02-04-2014, 04:16 PM

warranty smarranty.. just get decent headers & a tune and enjoy your car A LOT more the first 3 yrs/36K miles than you would if it was stock.

sklimo · 02-04-2014, 04:27 PM

Got decals yet?? 5hp per I hear

engee · 02-04-2014, 04:30 PM

Fast is all relative. If you want to make the car fast, invest in seat time and driver mod. This will make your car go fast without any turbo. I'm also pretty sure that you are not maxing out the limits of this car by any means nor are you really driving this car fast. After you have done some driver's courses and seat time, you can drive a lot faster too in all cars which makes this the mod that keeps on giving. This will also keep your warranty intact for the most part, except for a certain clause. haha

stevemp5 · 02-04-2014, 04:33 PM

Put redbull in your gaz tank! you get a set of wing with that

strat61caster · 02-04-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pegasus

but there is less friction in a Inline 4 than a flat 4

wut

Please explain.

Edit: So I'm not a complete asshole: the rest of your post is good.

JS + BRZ · 02-04-2014, 05:57 PM

spend 100 bucks to drive on the track.

there's your driver mod.

FLYFISHR · 02-04-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by engee

Fast is all relative. If you want to make the car fast, invest in seat time and driver mod. This will make your car go fast without any turbo. I'm also pretty sure that you are not maxing out the limits of this car by any means nor are you really driving this car fast. After you have done some driver's courses and seat time, you can drive a lot faster too in all cars which makes this the mod that keeps on giving. This will also keep your warranty intact for the most part, except for a certain clause. haha

I have often been told you can find more time by upgrading the nut behind the wheel.

enwave · 02-04-2014, 06:15 PM

Also, remember the dealer can only void the warranty if the aftermarket part played a role in the failure.

Might be a bit of a fight, but you'll eventually win if the part has no effect on the failure point.

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raven1231 · 02-04-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by enwave

Also, remember the dealer can only void the warranty if the aftermarket part played a role in the failure.

Might be a bit of a fight, but you'll eventually win if the part has no effect on the failure point.

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Might work with bolt ons, however with forced induction they can really say it effected any part of the powertrain.

Kelbyat07 · 02-04-2014, 06:27 PM

You should probably wait after you warranty is up if you're worried about that. But get a whole new exhaust system, tune, air filter, and little stuff. That should do it.

02-04-2014, 03:43 PM	#1
SubiNewbie Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Killeen TX Posts: 21 Thanks: 13 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Make Car Fast w/ No Turbo Understanding that I don't want to void the warranty so quickly. I understand there is CAI and new Exhaust, reduction in spare tires will help. What else can increase horsepower lets say an extra 15-20? I saw Perrin CAI can increase it by 9+ hp, Injen 9 - 12HP. Also to mention that new exhaust can increase between 1 to as much as 6 hp. I saw a Stage II CAI, but honestly I'm a little weary of those because I'm not sure why Stage II CAI differences between Stage I when I see both can produce just as much Horsepower as the other. Mind you I'm a greenhorn so I don't know too much, so please enlighten me with your wisdom. I wish to find a way to push it to 250 without voiding the warranty.

02-04-2014, 03:52 PM	#3
MightyMeeple Slower than Fast Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Research Triangle Park, NC Posts: 431 Thanks: 290 Thanked 220 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What he said ^^^ Basically impossible to get meaningful gains without voiding the warranty. Drive the car for 3 years/36K miles, enjoy it, then go with an aftermarket header/overpipe and a tune and you will see some great gains. __________________ *Build Thread*

02-04-2014, 06:15 PM	#12
enwave That headunit though... Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited SSM Location: Provo, UT Posts: 520 Thanks: 304 Thanked 297 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also, remember the dealer can only void the warranty if the aftermarket part played a role in the failure. Might be a bit of a fight, but you'll eventually win if the part has no effect on the failure point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited SSM 6AT Phantom ESC 1.5Dump + E85 + OFH + Q300 Eibach Pro-Kit + Michelin PSS (stock size)

02-04-2014, 06:27 PM	#14
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You should probably wait after you warranty is up if you're worried about that. But get a whole new exhaust system, tune, air filter, and little stuff. That should do it. __________________

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Pegasus Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2014 Whiteout Monogram FR-S M/T Location: Houston Posts: 93 Thanks: 5 Thanked 33 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyobaru pretty much did everything possible to get the most power out of a NA 2 liter. Headers, Direct & Multi-port injection, DOHC, heck they just designed the dang thing. So at this point, there isn't much you can do. Honda got 240hp out of their S2000 but there is less friction in a Inline 4 than a flat 4 and Honda has a secret weapon. VTECH. So basically its go boost or go home, companys try everything to get out of warranty anyhow. If they see you put a different screw in somewhere they could try and wiggle out of it. Just leave it until warranty is gone like the rest of us, it won't be to long.

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reeves Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 289 Thanked 397 Times in 265 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	warranty smarranty.. just get decent headers & a tune and enjoy your car A LOT more the first 3 yrs/36K miles than you would if it was stock.

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engee Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Subaru Location: NJ Posts: 478 Thanks: 49 Thanked 146 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fast is all relative. If you want to make the car fast, invest in seat time and driver mod. This will make your car go fast without any turbo. I'm also pretty sure that you are not maxing out the limits of this car by any means nor are you really driving this car fast. After you have done some driver's courses and seat time, you can drive a lot faster too in all cars which makes this the mod that keeps on giving. This will also keep your warranty intact for the most part, except for a certain clause. haha

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