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Old 06-04-2018, 09:35 AM   #15
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If you are looking for flush, wider tires are not the solution. You need either wheels with more offset, or run spacers on your stock wheels.
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I just know in the car community firestones aren't looked upon too highly. From what other responders have said 245s on all four corners isn't the best idea. This may be a dumb question as im not super knowledgeable on tires, but wouldn't 245s on all four corners be better than 225s from a performance perspective as long as everything fits just fine?
The Indy 500 are an awesome tire in fact i plan to get those as well. People say not to get 245/40 because its just a lot of tire for this car's power. If you wanted to run 245/40 you can just get a 17x9 wheel for best fit. People have also put 245/40 on a 17x8 wheel and theres mixed reviews on that.

As for a wider tires being best for performance theres been a lot of debate on that you can reference this thread https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126829
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I think I will wait until my stock tires have a little more miles on them (17,000) and then upgrade to some indy 500s. For the flush look in the rear, these look like they will do the trick. Any input? https://www.amazon.com/Hubcentric-Sp...+wheel+spacers
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:55 AM   #18
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I think I will wait until my stock tires have a little more miles on them (17,000) and then upgrade to some indy 500s. For the flush look in the rear, these look like they will do the trick. Any input? https://www.amazon.com/Hubcentric-Sp...+wheel+spacers
That will depend on what wheels you choose and what offset those wheels come in. If you just want to make your stock wheels flush you need a 20mm spacer front and 25mm spacer in rear. But since you have an RS1.0 you already lowered an inch from factory so when you buy new wheels get a lower offset and you should be just about flush.
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Yeah those would work but you should go ahead and do both ends. @Leonardo gave you good specs on what to run in his second post. The front doesn't need to be pushed out as much as the rear.
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Awesome, thanks for the help everyone. Until I need new rubber I’ll probably just get some hubcentric 20mm for the front and 25mm for the rear
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So to get this straight and settle it. I have been looking at getting 225s on the front and 245s on the rear with these exact tires and stock rims. Looking at the feedback that wont work and or wont fit? (I know some people will roast me for looking at Firestones but I have had a set previously and the reviews are also very good compared to others) --> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...I5XL&tab=Sizes
225/45 is max size for the stock wheels IMO. A 245/40 will be pinched on a 17x7". I ran 245/40 MPSS on a 7.5" wheels; they were pinched a bit. Not ideal at all.

Spacers do not negativly change the ride for DD. Getting 225/45s and spacers would most likely make you happy.

Cant say Ive tried firestones, specifically those ones anyway. But I can say that I jut got Hankook evo v12 tires to replace the expensive Michelins I was running. Terrible choice. I had burnt through 20 MPSS tires and thought that "Maybe I should try something else and save a few bucks" Bad idea. The Michelins are way better, and totally worth the money. I will be swapping back soon, though I am probably going to try a newer model Michelin.

Finally... my point: Firestones are inexpensive; the savings may not be worth it.


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I have to strongly disagree on Firestones not being worth it due to the low price. They are better in every way than the MPSS I had on previously by leaps and bounds.
I've already said it in here but will repeat that if the Indy 500s cost more than the MPSS, I'd still buy them and MPSS are way overpriced because of their reputation.
Leonardo said he went through 5 sets of them. That leads me to the main negative of the MPSS. I barely put 8k on mine before they were fully dead and the previous owner may have had them
for a little more but they wear way too fast. The Indy 500s have 4k on them and look like they are still new. Second negative was sliding around and even losing control
and spinning on the MPSS making a u-turn made me scratch me head wondering how those tires get such a good rep. Only positive was people seen they were on the car and said "good choice of tire".
At almost double the price of the Indy 500, I just laugh that anybody would have spent that on the outgoing Super Sports and especially now that the Pilot Sport 4s is indeed more than double of the Indy 500s.

To Leonardo, since you're going through so many tires and/or not happy with what your on, maybe give the Firestones a try next time and see what happens.
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As far as I know the Indy Firehawks are just rebranded Potenza RE003's.
They're definitely better than the PSS or PS4s in terms of outright dry grip.

Any reference to Firestone of the past (blow out and SUV rollovers) probably do not belong in a discussion about the Firehawks.
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I have to strongly disagree on Firestones not being worth it due to the low price. They are better in every way than the MPSS I had on previously by leaps and bounds.
I've already said it in here but will repeat that if the Indy 500s cost more than the MPSS, I'd still buy them and MPSS are way overpriced because of their reputation.
Leonardo said he went through 5 sets of them. That leads me to the main negative of the MPSS. I barely put 8k on mine before they were fully dead and the previous owner may have had them
for a little more but they wear way too fast. The Indy 500s have 4k on them and look like they are still new. Second negative was sliding around and even losing control
and spinning on the MPSS making a u-turn made me scratch me head wondering how those tires get such a good rep. Only positive was people seen they were on the car and said "good choice of tire".
At almost double the price of the Indy 500, I just laugh that anybody would have spent that on the outgoing Super Sports and especially now that the Pilot Sport 4s is indeed more than double of the Indy 500s.

To Leonardo, since you're going through so many tires and/or not happy with what your on, maybe give the Firestones a try next time and see what happens.

Interesting. I Really HATE the soft sidewall of the Hankook V12's. I am going to change them. Thanks for the input.
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So to get this straight and settle it. I have been looking at getting 225s on the front and 245s on the rear with these exact tires and stock rims. Looking at the feedback that wont work and or wont fit? (I know some people will roast me for looking at Firestones but I have had a set previously and the reviews are also very good compared to others) --> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...I5XL&tab=Sizes
We can argue about 225s on the stock rim. It is within spec but personal opinions differ. I did that and it was fine for me. However, there is no argument that 245 is out-of-spec on the stock 7" rims. 245 width requires minimum 8" rims. That is what I have right now.

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From what other responders have said 245s on all four corners isn't the best idea. This may be a dumb question as im not super knowledgeable on tires, but wouldn't 245s on all four corners be better than 225s from a performance perspective as long as everything fits just fine?
245's on four corners are just fine if you need the extra grip for increased power or track racing purposes. For daily driving on the stock power level, they are just for looks with a performance penalty. Looks is a good excuse though

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245's on four corners are just fine if you need the extra grip for increased power or track racing purposes. For daily driving on the stock power level, they are just for looks with a performance penalty. Looks is a good excuse though
Could you elaborate on this "performance penalty"? I am looking at getting 245/40/17 tires, but still undecided whether to go 245/40 or 225/45. Just trying to get different opinions.
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Vital: more sideways grip which isn't used at DD, but less acceleration due weight/more rolling resistance.
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Could you elaborate on this "performance penalty"? I am looking at getting 245/40/17 tires, but still undecided whether to go 245/40 or 225/45. Just trying to get different opinions.
While giving more grip at the corners, in acceleration, and stopping power, wider tires are generally heavier and higher rolling resistance against the motion. You could have lower mpg and top speed. We are talking about a few percentages difference but you might feel the drag of wider tire depending on your power level.
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