Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by spike021

Hes such a handful already..lol. He HATES his crate and his playpen. Last night got him into the crate for bedtime, thought he was good, closed the door, and immediately he kept screaming his tiny lungs out, but I persisted.

he mostly did ok but woke me up a few times with random noises and he wet the bed once.

Today for naps he refuses to go into it and will only nap (twice now) under my bed, lol.

I'm definitely hoping to properly crate train him but need to figure out the best way. I used a cleaning spray so most of the urine smell is gone now (to my nose at least). Hopefully he'll be able to go in tonight...

welcome to puppy life!

the best thing to do? be consistent.

my brothers dog is trained that when we sit down at the table to eat dinner, he goes to his crate, or his brown blanket off the side, and isn't allowed to leave that spot until we get up.

it's just like kids. they will always test the boundaries. be consistent about where they are, and they'll get it. at least most of the time.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by soundman98

welcome to puppy life!

the best thing to do? be consistent.

my brothers dog is trained that when we sit down at the table to eat dinner, he goes to his crate, or his brown blanket off the side, and isn't allowed to leave that spot until we get up.

it's just like kids. they will always test the boundaries. be consistent about where they are, and they'll get it. at least most of the time.

Don't EVER feed them human food. And Never feed them from the table, or while you are eating.

And most importantly, NEVER feed them human food.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Don't EVER feed them human food. And Never feed them from the table, or while you are eating.

And most importantly, NEVER feed them human food.

Kids or puppies?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Don't EVER feed them human food. And Never feed them from the table, or while you are eating.

And most importantly, NEVER feed them human food.

yeah, about that...
fair warning, first link on the study i found, but it was everywhere on my news feed for a week from different places.
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dogs-fresh-less

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by spike021

Hes such a handful already..lol. He HATES his crate and his playpen. Last night got him into the crate for bedtime, thought he was good, closed the door, and immediately he kept screaming his tiny lungs out, but I persisted.

he mostly did ok but woke me up a few times with random noises and he wet the bed once.

Today for naps he refuses to go into it and will only nap (twice now) under my bed, lol.

I'm definitely hoping to properly crate train him but need to figure out the best way. I used a cleaning spray so most of the urine smell is gone now (to my nose at least). Hopefully he'll be able to go in tonight...

My son has had a couple of GSDs and has persuaded me the key with puppies is TREATs. Anytime the dog does a behavior you want - TREAT Doesn't matter why or when they they did it just - TREAT. You're outside and the pup potties - TREAT. You're inside and s/he wanders into the crate - TREAT.

If the pup likes you and has sort of bonded with you, throw a set of your smelliest clothes in the crate. When you get him in it - TREAT. Most puppies are food motivated so that works for quite a while. When they get bigger you'll need to make some changes.

Edit: Another couple of thoughts. At that age, you should probably be taking him outside at a minimum, every two hours. Put him down on the grass and when he potties - TREAT! When he starts squalling in the crate, don't let him out until he calms down. When he gets quiet, let him out and - TREAT! Ignore most to all undesirable behaviors for a while and reward the hell out of desirable ones. You are now Sugar Dog Daddy.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Kids or puppies?

Yes.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Upstate New York, born and raised,
wooded hills are where I spent most of my days...

(No, it doesn't match up well with the FPoBA theme, but I tried lol)

Ahhhhh ........ yep, got the picture -

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by spike021

Pics:

Sooooo cute -

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Got offered a job training troops at the ANG in New Hampshire. New Hampshire?!

That would be a good tour.

Training troops to do what?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

My son has had a couple of GSDs and has persuaded me the key with puppies is TREATs.

Depending on the dog, sometimes it's best to give them a treat whether or not they did it right -

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

My son has had a couple of GSDs and has persuaded me the key with puppies is TREATs. Anytime the dog does a behavior you want - TREAT Doesn't matter why or when they they did it just - TREAT. You're outside and the pup potties - TREAT. You're inside and s/he wanders into the crate - TREAT.

If the pup likes you and has sort of bonded with you, throw a set of your smelliest clothes in the crate. When you get him in it - TREAT. Most puppies are food motivated so that works for quite a while. When they get bigger you'll need to make some changes.

Edit: Another couple of thoughts. At that age, you should probably be taking him outside at a minimum, every two hours. Put him down on the grass and when he potties - TREAT! When he starts squalling in the crate, don't let him out until he calms down. When he gets quiet, let him out and - TREAT! Ignore most to all undesirable behaviors for a while and reward the hell out of desirable ones. You are now Sugar Dog Daddy.

Yeah that all sounds like what I've been reading and what the breeder said in the docs she provided. Problem is he's not lifting his leg yet so sometimes it's hard to tell that he's peed until I pick him up to either avoid something in the grass or to bring him in.. and then I feel something dribbling down my hand lol.

Fortunately the poo part he's only done outside......so far.

Also I need to pre break up a bunch of the treats and put them into a sandwich baggie that I can take outside. Only did that the last couple outings tonight. Need to do better.

FWIW, tonight I really tired him out. Then took him out, but he didn't do anything. So instead of letting him fall asleep on my lap, I took him into the bedroom with one of the treat bones the breeder gave me and coaxed him into the crate. A few times he started carrying it and trying to leave, but on the last try he stayed inside, laid down, and kept chewing the bone. So I left the door open a bit and sat outside. He kept chewing without paying any attention to me. So I closed the door and locked it gently. Kept watching him, turned out the lights. Kept sitting and watching, put white noise on my Google home, then walked away and left the bedroom door open a crack for some hallway light.

So far so good.

My breeder said the schedule of feeding/watering she recommends for puppies is to take them away at 8 or 9pm, play a bunch, take the puppy out at 9:45pm, let it go to the bathroom, then take it in and put it to bed. She says at this age for shibas they are safe to stay in bed for 8 hours as long as you take the food/water away early enough. That's what I did last night but think maybe I should've taken him out at around 3-4 hours anyway.

Might do that tonight just to be sure...

But so far so good at about half an hour since putting him in with the peanut butter bone thingy.

[Boomerang]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Depending on the dog, sometimes it's best to give them a treat whether or not they did it right -

Ultradog...

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by humfrz

That would be a good tour.

Training troops to do what?

Help them pass the new ACFT since so many fail it lol

[spike021]

So Haru slept through the night. then this morning he screamed a bit till I took him out at 6am. Then I let him eat/drink, then played, then I put him in his playpen with treats, but of course he's still not used to being locked in, so he kept screaming. Breeder said it's fine, shibas just need to be ignored in the beginning till they're quiet.

I had my sliding window open on my balcony for fresh air and then I hear someone yell from outside "I'm calling animal services!!"

So yeah, that's my morning. I hope they're proud of themselves if/when animal services actually show up and they realize he's just a puppy.