2014 Volkswagen Golf R official info drops - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Sport-Tech · 08-20-2013, 10:24 AM

Find it here. 296 hp with all kinds of new tech to make the handling more neutral than the current nose-heavy plough. Looks like they may have a winner, if the PR bumpf is to be believed. Now if they can keep the price reasonable - say $42K in Canada. Nice looking in a conservative way, although not much there to differentiate it from the base Golf:

f0rge · 08-20-2013, 03:24 PM

Wow 296hp from a 2.0T would have been impressive if it wasn't for the CLA45.

dsgerbc · 08-20-2013, 04:26 PM

Jeez, that looks super-boring.

CTB727 · 08-20-2013, 10:20 PM

Why is this always such an overpriced car? I can't figure out why people buy them or why it's on the market. Don't get me wrong, if it was given to me then I would probably enjoy it. But it's $10,000 more than a GTI for just a little bit more power and center exhaust. It does look good though.

Is there something I'm missing?

juliog · 08-20-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CTB727

Is there something I'm missing?

Well there's the whole FF->AWD conversion...

CTB727 · 08-20-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by juliog

Well there's the whole FF->AWD conversion...

But for 10 grand?

Burrcold · 08-20-2013, 10:41 PM

Meh. More if the same from VW's R line (impressive but bland and overpriced (educated assumption)). By the time it reaches NA shores, the MKVIII will be close to launching.

Sonolin · 08-20-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CTB727

Why is this always such an overpriced car? I can't figure out why people buy them or why it's on the market. Don't get me wrong, if it was given to me then I would probably enjoy it. But it's $10,000 more than a GTI for just a little bit more power and center exhaust. It does look good though.

Is there something I'm missing?

I agree I always liked the golf r but then I look at the price...

Id rather have a souped up wrx if I was looking for a 40k hatch

fatoni · 08-20-2013, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by juliog

Well there's the whole FF->AWD conversion...

that would mean something if ff vs awd was that simple but the ff in the gtj is probably at least as good as the awd in the r

Superhatch · 08-20-2013, 11:26 PM

I think the market for these is not us. I think the R market is for guys like my dad, a bit older, more conservative than he was 20 years ago, likes the idea of awd, but isn't looking for outright speed.

He had a GTI but wanted a little more w/o having to mod or tune and the R was a perfect answer for him.

Sonolin · 08-21-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Superhatch

I think the market for these is not us. I think the R market is for guys like my dad, a bit older, more conservative than he was 20 years ago, likes the idea of awd, but isn't looking for outright speed.

He had a GTI but wanted a little more w/o having to mod or tune and the R was a perfect answer for him.

I thought r was for race spec

Superhatch · 08-21-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonolin

I thought r was for race spec

I don't know what their intention was...but it certainly didn't result in a race spec golf.

BlueDubbinTDI · 08-21-2013, 12:19 AM

Its going to be the same result as the current gen. With $1000 (downpipe + stage 2) it will as fast if not faster than a stock R for FARRR less $$$. except mk7 Rs seem to look worse than mk6s...

DarkSunrise · 08-21-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

that would mean something if ff vs awd was that simple but the ff in the gtj is probably at least as good as the awd in the r

At stock power levels, maybe. But once you drive a stage 1 mk6 GTI (250hp/300tq), you quickly realize how important AWD is.

I think the current mk6 Golf R is misunderstood. Stock, yeah it's not worth it vs. a GTI. But once you modify it (335hp/338tq @APR stg2) it begins to make sense. Then you've got a car that's on par with the STI/Evo, but with a lot more refinement.

08-20-2013, 10:24 AM	#1
Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2014 Volkswagen Golf R official info drops Find it here. 296 hp with all kinds of new tech to make the handling more neutral than the current nose-heavy plough. Looks like they may have a winner, if the PR bumpf is to be believed. Now if they can keep the price reasonable - say $42K in Canada. Nice looking in a conservative way, although not much there to differentiate it from the base Golf:

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Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Meh. More if the same from VW's R line (impressive but bland and overpriced (educated assumption)). By the time it reaches NA shores, the MKVIII will be close to launching. __________________

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Superhatch AIM4APX Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Limited Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,206 Thanks: 642 Thanked 749 Times in 324 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think the market for these is not us. I think the R market is for guys like my dad, a bit older, more conservative than he was 20 years ago, likes the idea of awd, but isn't looking for outright speed. He had a GTI but wanted a little more w/o having to mod or tune and the R was a perfect answer for him. __________________ "It's very difficult to present technology as an overtly positive sales device to people who want an emotional car" -Chris Harris

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dsgerbc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ(sold), STI Location: A2, MI Posts: 1,915 Thanks: 176 Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jeez, that looks super-boring.

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CTB727 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: USA Posts: 237 Thanks: 65 Thanked 104 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why is this always such an overpriced car? I can't figure out why people buy them or why it's on the market. Don't get me wrong, if it was given to me then I would probably enjoy it. But it's $10,000 more than a GTI for just a little bit more power and center exhaust. It does look good though. Is there something I'm missing?

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