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ichitaka05 · 02-26-2020, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Subaru also has a voice. Tadasan and the rest of Toyota were never a hope for this car for several years now, hell they barely were for the first gen imo. Tada wanted it, sure, but toyota is, and has been, a shitshow for decades. I still have some hope in Subaru. And they release their EV right after the BRZ which also gives me hope.

As fucked up as it is to say... at least there are american performance cars available now.

TBH both Toyota AND Subaru currently shitshow.

I do agree, recent American performance cars have step up their game. If they can shave more weight, I think it's golden.

Tcoat · 02-26-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

TBH both Toyota AND Subaru currently shitshow.

Could be worse. Could be Nissan!

ichitaka05 · 02-26-2020, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Could be worse. Could be Nissan!

Yeah... Nissan is in bigger shitshow than Toyo or Subie. It's been like that for... 3~4yrs now right? Until it gets resolved, Nissan gonna keep going down.

Dadhawk · 02-26-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah... Nissan is in bigger shitshow than Toyo or Subie. It's been like that for... 3~4yrs now right? Until it gets resolved, Nissan gonna keep going down.

Try since the 80's (for me).

ichitaka05 · 02-26-2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Try since the 80's (for me).

I know Nissan isn’t really a “steady” automotive company. Not sure how many times they “almost” went bankrupt. But in certain year in between on rollercoaster, they’ve made some amazing cars.

Tcoat · 02-26-2020, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Try since the 80's (for me).

The whole Ghson story for the last couple of years would make one hell of a movie though!

Dadhawk · 02-26-2020, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I know Nissan isn’t really a “steady” automotive company. Not sure how many times they “almost” went bankrupt. But in certain year in between on rollercoaster, they’ve made some amazing cars.

I have my own personal gripe with Nissan as I've said on here before and again just recently.

I've refused to keep up with them at all since then.

ichitaka05 · 02-26-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I have my own personal gripe with Nissan as I've said on here before and again just recently.

I've refused to keep up with them at all since then.

Haha MID4 came in the wrong time. Nissan had to figure out which monster car to bring it out, MID4 II or R32... of course, all the higher up will say R32. No heritage expensive sports car not sure ppl will buy or long heritage expensive sports car they know it’ll sell.

KR-S · 02-26-2020, 08:47 PM

Personally, I think a new MID4 with the VR38DETT engine would be absolutely amazing.

Perhaps that's what Nissan should make as the new GT-R to compete with the upcoming C8.

Dave-ROR · 02-26-2020, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Th3rdSun

Yeah,you're going to need to further explain that part of your statement.

From my perspective they've sucked ass since the mid 90s. The frs wouldnt exist without Subaru. They still seem incapable of producing their own sports car.

But they can sure make some good selling appliances.

Dave-ROR · 02-26-2020, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

TBH both Toyota AND Subaru currently shitshow.

I do agree, recent American performance cars have step up their game. If they can shave more weight, I think it's golden.

Dont need to... horsepower. They are as fun to drive and faster.

Still love these cars.. hell I own at least part of 4 of them right now but....

Looking forward to rebuilding a wrecked 2nd gen lol

OldSkoolToys · 02-26-2020, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

As fucked up as it is to say... at least there are american performance cars available now.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler don't make anything remotely close to the twins. What is small, lightweight, and RWD from them? I've long waited for them try the market out, maybe by bringing back the Falcon / Maverick, Chevy II / Nova, and (proper this time) Dart nameplates. If it hasn't happened by now though, it will probably never happen.

soundman98 · 02-26-2020, 09:27 PM

the new mustang is tickling my fancy. been quite sucessful in scca as well...

but it's a big boy.

Dave-ROR · 02-26-2020, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Ford, GM, and Chrysler don't make anything remotely close to the twins. What is small, lightweight, and RWD from them? I've long waited for them try the market out, maybe by bringing back the Falcon / Maverick, Chevy II / Nova, and (proper this time) Dart nameplates. If it hasn't happened by now though, it will probably never happen.

Camaro I4 1le isnt all that much heavier. And if I were buying new in that price range I wouldnt hesitate to consider one.

But I was not speaking specifically about competitors to the twins, more in general.

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