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Old 03-06-2014, 02:56 PM   #463
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Is anybody considering this FA20Club Oil Cooler Liquid/Liquid Kit? link This design sounds similar to the Robispec design discussed elsewhere on FT86club.com. What is interesting is that it specifically has a "Kraftwerks Compatible" option under the Thermostatic Plate drop-down and you can choose between a Mishimoto radiator or a Koyo radiator (for $30 more).

Note that there aren't any photos of the specific "Kraftwerks Compatible" version nor does it actually tell you if it KW compatible variant has a Thermostatic Plate. I'm guessing they have taken into account the tight clearance concern between one of the idler pulley bolts and the oil cooler itself.
Have you missed all the people fa20club shit on the last number of months?

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Um doesn't that valve only work one way?

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Look up how a bpv works. The vaccum hose is what opens the valve to prevent compressor surge when the throttle body shuts.

That's why I said that I did some reading. Then flipped the orientation.

One of a few sources
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=143567
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Old 03-06-2014, 03:32 PM   #464
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Is anybody considering this FA20Club Oil Cooler Liquid/Liquid Kit? link This design sounds similar to the Robispec design discussed elsewhere on FT86club.com. What is interesting is that it specifically has a "Kraftwerks Compatible" option under the Thermostatic Plate drop-down and you can choose between a Mishimoto radiator or a Koyo radiator (for $30 more).

Note that there aren't any photos of the specific "Kraftwerks Compatible" version nor does it actually tell you if the KW compatible variant has a Thermostatic Plate. I'm guessing they have taken into account the tight clearance concern between one of the idler pulley bolts and the oil cooler itself.
Do some research here before you decide to give fa20club your money.
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The FA20Club L/L oil cooler was the last product I picked up from them before the shit hit the fan. To their credit, the welds are good and it included all parts.

I ordered a KW-compatible take off plate but honestly they just sent the same take off plate with angled hose accessories. I don't think it's going to clear the KW kit. I'm talking with the guy who makes the takeoff plates for the Robispec kit... that one should work without any issues since the inlet/outlet are stacked rather than side by side.
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Regarding the cogged pulleys...

I was told January 21st that they were 'three weeks out.' That date came and went...

Got another email from them a couple days ago... we are 'three weeks out.'

Kraftwerks™ - Your shit is always three weeks out... always.

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I'll be ordering my kit.... in about three weeks.
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Can anyone comment on how much, if any whine can be heard at 50 - 75 mph in 5th - 6th gear?

Also, @KraftWerks, what are those toothed idlers going to cost me if I buy the kit as currently shipping?
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Well I'll say this with the radio on, even at low volumeI really can't here the whine.

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Can anyone comment on how much, if any whine can be heard at 50 - 75 mph in 5th - 6th gear?

Also, @KraftWerks, what are those toothed idlers going to cost me if I buy the kit as currently shipping?
On stock exhaust you hear it all the time

I don't mind, gf nags about it a ton.
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On stock exhaust you hear it all the time

I don't mind, gf nags about it a ton.
Yeah I'm not stock exhaust at all.agency power header and cat back with dc sports over pipe.

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With the Perrin 3" catback, front pipe and their 2.5 overpipe it was in the background
If yours sounds anything like what my car did with the above exhaust items and borla Uel, you aren't hearing a damn thing from the sc.


Now I just have the op and fp on.
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I don't mind, gf nags about it a ton.
Same, but I think I'll do the clogged idler pulleys when KW is ready with them.
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We we'll I have a pretty decent stereo system as well do with all that.I don't care about the idler pulleys

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If you turn up the radio to a moderate level, you don't really here the whine anymore. Otherwise, it's pretty prominent when you only have a stock exhaust. Oh FYI, I got my car dyno tuned.

The XLR8 BR-Z has been dyno tuned! We just want to say thank you to John Visconti from Visconti Tuning for taking time out of his busy schedule to tune the vehicle. It was also a pleasure to finally meet you in person. We'd also like to thank MR Performance on Long Island for letting us make your shop noisy and smelly for a few hours.



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The tune could not have come out better! I have already put about 150 miles on the car since the tune in a bunch of different driving situations, such as rush hour traffic, back road driving, open highway acceleration, late night straight aways and cold start driving this morning. The difference between the Vtune and the base map are night and day. The car drives better now than it did when it was stock. Power delivery is excellent. Torque is steady across the board and acceleration is silky smooth. The base map had torque spikes and lulls which made driving a little annoying and really took away from the experience of driving the car. I'm more than happy to say that drive-ability is 110% better than it ever was. Flooring the car is so much more satisfying and smoother than it was before. Although the base map did make more torque in certain areas, it wasn't as smooth, having a lot of ups and downs throughout the torque curve.

Now for the numbers and the stuff you guys really want to see! My BR-Z is stock and the best run we had was 261whp and 220wtq. Because he was building a tune and we weren't just doing dyno pulls the car got really heat soaked. The dyno graph I have shows 245 whp and about 210 wtq which was the lowest reading we received. Most of the runs were around 255whp and 218wtq. The tuning was done on a Mustang dynamometer which does read lower than most dyno's but I was more than happy with the power the car made. That's an average of about a 100whp over stock!

All in all, this is definitely the tune that I would recommend for this kit and I will continue to go back to, and recommend, John Visconti for all of my tuning needs. He knows exactly what he is doing and it truly does show in his efficiency and in the finished product.

Well, here's the graph and the link to the video!:




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Glad you like your car, but that dyno has to be a mistake. This plot is pure twin screw. (Figures, video *sounds* like twin screw).
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