AVO owners who HPDE/Track... Any issues? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

seven · 01-13-2015, 02:50 PM

(Sorry if this is somewhere, I've searched and didn't find much specific info)

Just curious if you folks have encountered any cooling issues/things to address when tracking with the AVO kit?

Specifically the base kit, running in the 5-8psi ballpark.

How are you oil temps? Coolant temps? etc

Thanks all

kbogarto · 01-13-2015, 05:54 PM

I have the base kit in an otherwise stock car. Never tracked it but on spirited driving the coolant temps climb from standard 190 to around 210. Doesn't answer your question but just my experience

DesertFrs · 01-13-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by seven

(Sorry if this is somewhere, I've searched and didn't find much specific info)

Just curious if you folks have encountered any cooling issues/things to address when tracking with the AVO kit?

Specifically the base kit, running in the 5-8psi ballpark.

How are you oil temps? Coolant temps? etc

Thanks all

I have the AVO kit along with the @DAMotorsports. Like any other kit I recommend getting an Oil Cooler and Upgrading the Radiator. Oil Cooler and Radiator are needed on any stock FRS/BRZ that is tracked, so it will be needed with any turbo kit that is added to the twins.

If you plan on using it for daily driving, sprint driving and drag racing you really don't need one. I live where temps are 120 degrees in the summer here in SoCal.

Once I get home I'll see if I can get you some temp info.

Overall I have no issues with the kit. I installed it when my car had 2k miles on it and I am currently at 20k. With my Highest map set at 16psi the issue I run to is trying to keep traction... LOL

Hope this helped.

FrX · 01-13-2015, 11:10 PM

Coolant temps have always been fine for me on the stock radiator. Oil temps are pretty high though. I logged 137 deg C in the middle of June. I would recommend an oil cooler. I would also recommend coming up with some sort of heat shielding for the motor mounts ( passenger side at least ). I melted mine.

jflogerzi · 01-13-2015, 11:44 PM

IMO at the lower PSI levels, only an oil cooler should be needed as you don't have a front mounted turbo dumping heat into the engine bay. Upgrading your radiator should not be required. Oil temps on a stock NA car in decent ambient temps can get pretty damn high as it is

sw20kosh · 01-14-2015, 12:04 AM

No radiator is required. This has been tested by multiple peopleon Cali tracks. The limits of the stock radiator have not been found. People who buy radiators are just throwing money at vendors for no reason.

I would recommend an oil cooler much bigger than the standard 13 row setrab series 6. I would go with a setrab 15 row series 9.

seven · 01-14-2015, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi

IMO at the lower PSI levels, only an oil cooler should be needed as you don't have a front mounted turbo dumping heat into the engine bay. Upgrading your radiator should not be required. Oil temps on a stock NA car in decent ambient temps can get pretty damn high as it is

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

No radiator is required. This has been tested by multiple peopleon Cali tracks. The limits of the stock radiator have not been found. People who buy radiators are just throwing money at vendors for no reason.

I would recommend an oil cooler much bigger than the standard 13 row setrab series 6. I would go with a setrab 15 row series 9.

Yeah, stock(ish) boost levels. No more than 8 psi basically. I don't need more than 275-300whp (which is likely do-able at 8psi with supporting mods).

I would probably grab AVO's oil cooler kit, and I figured a rad wasn't needed, perhaps a lower t-stat as a bit of piece of mind at most.

Thanks all.

jflogerzi · 01-14-2015, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by seven

Yeah, stock(ish) boost levels. No more than 8 psi basically. I don't need more than 275-300whp (which is likely do-able at 8psi with supporting mods).

I would probably grab AVO's oil cooler kit, and I figured a rad wasn't needed, perhaps a lower t-stat as a bit of piece of mind at most.

Thanks all.

Don't bother with the t-stat. Stock is fine

Drift-Office · 01-16-2015, 02:18 PM

When did you get back into a FRS?! :P

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

Flasher · 01-18-2015, 07:16 AM

If u'r planing on getting the AVO Kit, don't forget to buy the AVO breather tank. Otherwise you will get lots of blow-by, especially when tracking.

ChrisD · 01-19-2015, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasher

If u'r planing on getting the AVO Kit, don't forget to buy the AVO breather tank. Otherwise you will get lots of blow-by, especially when tracking.

I saw that the AVO Breather Kit is a recommended item to buy along with the AVO turbo kit, but what exactly does the breather kit do? What is it?

protpibe · 01-19-2015, 10:15 AM

I did my first track day in spring of last year when the ambient temps were at about 8 degrees celcius and my oil temps were still uncomfortably high. I installed an oil cooler shortly thereafter. An oil cooler is 100% mandatory for any boosted BRZ/FRS, regardless of being tracked.

As for a radiator, like someone else said, it's not really necessary. I've never had an issue with water temps even on days that are 30C. Even though I didn't need it, I installed an FBM rad upgrade with shroud and fans. Difference? None that I could tell, although with the hood up and fans going, you can feel a LOT more heat being pushed out of the fans. But I'm sure that's what the stock rad does when air is being forced through at speed.

In summary:
-Get an oil cooler
-You don't need a rad

01-13-2015, 02:50 PM	#1
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01-13-2015, 05:54 PM	#2
kbogarto Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ limited WRB Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 120 Thanks: 135 Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the base kit in an otherwise stock car. Never tracked it but on spirited driving the coolant temps climb from standard 190 to around 210. Doesn't answer your question but just my experience __________________ 92 240sx (sold), 03 350z (sold), 13 BRZ (AVO turbo)

01-14-2015, 12:04 AM	#6
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	No radiator is required. This has been tested by multiple peopleon Cali tracks. The limits of the stock radiator have not been found. People who buy radiators are just throwing money at vendors for no reason. I would recommend an oil cooler much bigger than the standard 13 row setrab series 6. I would go with a setrab 15 row series 9. __________________ 86DRIVE Challenge

01-18-2015, 07:16 AM	#10
Flasher Smartass Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Toyota GT86 & Impreza STi Location: Germany Posts: 104 Thanks: 60 Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If u'r planing on getting the AVO Kit, don't forget to buy the AVO breather tank. Otherwise you will get lots of blow-by, especially when tracking. __________________ Toyota GT86, Leather, JBL-Sound, Aero-Kit, inferno orange MODS \|O.Z Leggera 18 x 8,5\|Front:Tarox B32\|Rear:OEM+EBC GreenStuff\|Braided Lines\|Milltek CAT-Back & Overpipe\|Motiv Concepts catted Frontpipe\| AVO Turbo\|AVO breather tank\|Mishimoto Oilcooler\|Exedy Stage 1 Clutch\|BeatSonic Sharkfin\|TRD Ducktail\|TRD Aero cover\|Valenti blinker

01-19-2015, 10:15 AM	#12
protpibe Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,395 Thanks: 253 Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I did my first track day in spring of last year when the ambient temps were at about 8 degrees celcius and my oil temps were still uncomfortably high. I installed an oil cooler shortly thereafter. An oil cooler is 100% mandatory for any boosted BRZ/FRS, regardless of being tracked. As for a radiator, like someone else said, it's not really necessary. I've never had an issue with water temps even on days that are 30C. Even though I didn't need it, I installed an FBM rad upgrade with shroud and fans. Difference? None that I could tell, although with the hood up and fans going, you can feel a LOT more heat being pushed out of the fans. But I'm sure that's what the stock rad does when air is being forced through at speed. In summary: -Get an oil cooler -You don't need a rad __________________ Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE

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