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Old 10-14-2019, 08:59 AM   #1
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Question Help 2jz swap M/T in Toyota 86 A/T

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I apologize if I didn't ask my question in the right place
i have a question about 2jz swap
i have 2017 toyota 86 A/T
and i wanna swap to 2JZ Manual Trans
just i wanted to know what the problems would be in this swap
How's that?and how to ?
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hey guys
I apologize if I didn't ask my question in the right place
i have a question about 2jz swap
i have 2017 toyota 86 A/T
and i wanna swap to 2JZ Manual Trans
just i wanted to know what the problems would be in this swap
How's that?and how to ?
thanks guys
whats your budget? for the most part 30-35k is basically bare minimum.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:04 PM   #3
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whats your budget? for the most part 30-35k is basically bare minimum.
thanks
but it's not about budget,
it's about the problems and how to solve them
because my car is an A/T and i wanna swap 2jz M/T
please guys help me and explain how to do this
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If you even remotely understood the implication or context of your own inquiry you wouldn't be asking.
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Are you doing the swap yourself, or paying a shop? If you're paying a shop, you should be asking them. If you're doing it yourself, good luck, this will be one of the easier parts of the swap.
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There is going to be a lot of issues you're going to have to deal with. For the clutch system, you will need a new pedal assembly with clutch pedal. Then you will have to mount a clutch master cylinder and reservoir. After you've got that going it is going to be a fun project making a drive by wire system work. I'm not even sure how this would be accomplished. It may be easier to completely switch to a Tilton pedal setup as that would solve both of these issues so far. Of course, you will need a custom drive shaft and probably make a shifter cut out. Then there is the wiring. Thats going to be scary. I wouldnt even know how to begin with that. Getting diagrams for both engine and chassis would be a good start. Have highlighters and pens ready and get to matching wires. It is going to be a lot of hard work and even more money. Good luck with it all.
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but it's not about budget,
it's about the problems and how to solve them
because my car is an A/T and i wanna swap 2jz M/T
please guys help me and explain how to do this
Step 1. Sell car
Step 2. Buy M/T Supra
Swap complete.

On a serious note. The A/T to M/T conversion is the least of your concerns, since you will be buying a new trans, drivetrain, etc... already regardless. But the swap itself is a lot of work. So much so that the need to ask this question probably takes you out of the very very few individuals in this world where a swap like this makes sense.

Built FA20 shortblocks are pretty cheap if you can DIY everything yourself besides a tune you can be at a fun safe reliable 450whp for around $15k. If you want a M/T trade your car in for one. Or you can build the AT to handle 400ft lbs with clutch pack, valve body, torque converter for $3-4k more.
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Step 1. Sell car
Step 2. Buy M/T Supra
Swap complete.

On a serious note. The A/T to M/T conversion is the least of your concerns, since you will be buying a new trans, drivetrain, etc... already regardless. But the swap itself is a lot of work. So much so that the need to ask this question probably takes you out of the very very few individuals in this world where a swap like this makes sense.

Built FA20 shortblocks are pretty cheap if you can DIY everything yourself besides a tune you can be at a fun safe reliable 450whp for around $15k. If you want a M/T trade your car in for one. Or you can build the AT to handle 400ft lbs with clutch pack, valve body, torque converter for $3-4k more.
Thank you for your information
If I could buy M/T car, I'd buy it. But there are problems that make this impossible for me.
I know one Tuning Group doing this for a few other 86. But they were M/T
If I want to do it, I'll get help from them
btw thanks for your help

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There is going to be a lot of issues you're going to have to deal with. For the clutch system, you will need a new pedal assembly with clutch pedal. Then you will have to mount a clutch master cylinder and reservoir. After you've got that going it is going to be a fun project making a drive by wire system work. I'm not even sure how this would be accomplished. It may be easier to completely switch to a Tilton pedal setup as that would solve both of these issues so far. Of course, you will need a custom drive shaft and probably make a shifter cut out. Then there is the wiring. Thats going to be scary. I wouldnt even know how to begin with that. Getting diagrams for both engine and chassis would be a good start. Have highlighters and pens ready and get to matching wires. It is going to be a lot of hard work and even more money. Good luck with it all.
thanks a lot for sharing the info
yeah i know it's huge and needs hard and hard work and of course money
but i didn't do anything yet... I just started gathering info and experience
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Are you doing the swap yourself, or paying a shop? If you're paying a shop, you should be asking them. If you're doing it yourself, good luck, this will be one of the easier parts of the swap.
This is going to be done by myself and my friends (Tuning Group or shop)
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Thank you for your information
If I could buy M/T car, I'd buy it. But there are problems that make this impossible for me.
I know one Tuning Group doing this for a few other 86. But they were M/T
If I want to do it, I'll get help from them
btw thanks for your help



thanks a lot for sharing the info
yeah i know it's huge and needs hard and hard work and of course money
but i didn't do anything yet... I just started gathering info and experience
thanks



This is going to be done by myself and my friends (Tuning Group or shop)
thanks
as most people said, A/T to M/T should be the least of your worries i feel like you have no idea what you will be getting yourself into.
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he says he has a manual in that thread, but auto in this?
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Thank you for your information
If I could buy M/T car, I'd buy it. But there are problems that make this impossible for me.
I am not sure i follow.
What would limit you from trading in and/or selling your 86 to buy a different one with a M/T already in it? New and or lightly used BRZ/86 M/Ts are all over the place.
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