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06-15-2020, 12:43 AM | #29 | |
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I have a bottle of ultimate polish in my shelf, it's worth holding onto should you decide to try something else. If you are using a microfiber pad or "sleeve" it is likely to aggressive for what you are doing. If that foam backing pad is removable I would ditch it in favor of a more conventional velcro backing plate that accepts different pads. I used menzerna 2500 cutting polish on my entire car with a green and orange pad. Switched to orange on sections with small scratches, but both pads finished the same to my eye. I ended up using the orange pad on most of the car. |
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Most of those foam pads on the budget ones are not removable
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I was using the polishing pad, not the microfibre looking pad. No unfortunately the backing pad can't be removed. Last edited by Sam86; 06-15-2020 at 07:20 AM. |
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Hand polish-glaze-wax.
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@Sam86 Ok now that you've seen what happens when you cut corners, maybe you shouldn't do so in the future?
Hand compounding is a very tedious task. It's not worth attempting. You might ignore my advice and try it anyway, but you'll see. Past the first 1x1 ft area your arms will feel like they're going to fall off, and all your compounding rags and applicators will be soaked with polish. You can apply and wipe off Ultimate Polish by hand. It's probably preferable to do so unless you have the appropriate size tool, microfiber bonnets, etc. You use a machine polisher to remove and buff off the polishing glaze to a shine by attaching a microfiber bonnet over a pad. Just get the appropriate tools, and sell off your jank. Don't worry there's plenty of us who have wasted money on detailing products they never used. All the products I recommended in my post will take care of it. Smaller 5" pads have better action. Spend some more time watching videos, getting gear. You'll get there. Last edited by radroach; 06-15-2020 at 10:13 AM. |
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I've never heard anybody recommend more than 5lbs of pressure. 15lbs I'd be pressing a spot into the hood!
My method is to press the pad down enough where its steady but I can still see the the pad spinning. On a dual-action polisher like mine, its doesn't have a ton of power so if I press more than ~5lbs the pad doesn't spin or do any work. At 15lbs it would just sit and vibrate. |
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Video at 7:05 discusses pad pressure. The I have a porter cable too it isn't particularly powerful. |
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IMHO, if you are OCD and a beginner and a black car, take it someone that has experience. Pick their brain while they polish a black car. Lastly, a cordless polisher will not have the battery(ies) life to polish a car. All you'll be doing is waiting for batteries to charge. Convenient sure, but just doesn't have the power and kick as a corded one.
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I only have ultimate polish, and that was what I was attempting to apply. I don't have Ultimate compound as it was also recommended it was too aggressive for my paint, and my scratches aren't deep enough to need something aggressive anyway. if the microfibre pad is what i'm meant to use for polishing, what is the "polishing pad" I received meant for when that's of a different material. I got two pads with my polisher, the microfibre pad was labelled as an applicator whilst the other pad which is what I used in my attempt was labelled as the polishing pad. Others have also said the microfibre is aggressive on paint when polishing and causes more swirls Last edited by Sam86; 06-16-2020 at 05:13 AM. |
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The battery aspect also isn't too much of an issue to me, it's not going anywhere in my garage whilst it charges, and I'm not aiming to do a complete polish as most of my car is fine- it was just the roof, bonnet and rear that I wanted to polish. And yea I know how hard black is but it just looks so good when it has that mirror finish. And I wanted to learn now whilst my car is in good shape so when it does start to get obvious swirls and the paint begins to fade i'd know how to maintain it |
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My 10" Ryobi buffer works fine.
Nothing special for my products either, I use mothers polish, glaze and wax. And hand polishing isn't that hard, if doing a little hand polishing is causing peoples issues, I recommend that they work on their basic fitness and strength. I hand cut, polished and waxed for years by hand, same as 99% of the rest of the population. Is this another side effect of the "computer game" generation, weak and febble muppet arms.
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How effective a pad corrects depends on how hard or soft it is. When you use sleeve type applicators you it is difficult to control the cut of the applicator which will limit you when trying to approach fixing the paint. As for applying weight on paint, you want the pad to he flat and stable without moving around. 15 pound rule esoteric mentions is a good general tip. Obviously with different equipment, feeling out what works best is what's important. If it's possible to remove that 10" base you can replace it. Some polishers will allow you to switch them out. Microfiber pads cut quickly and should not be used as unless needed. Feel free to look up microfiber vs foam pads for more info. Foam pads are commonly used for correction. Pad manufacturers color their pads to specific purposes. It isn't a hard forced rule to follow but more of a general guideline as to how firm or soft the pad will be. Paint being a surface which will vary in hardness/softness by color, manufacturer. when watching pros you'll often see that they're using a combination of cutting pads with polish or compound with polish pads to achieve best results. Only experience and time will give you that. I clipped this from lake country's flat DA pad guidelines. It gives you a rough idea on how many options a detail has been approaching paint correction. The vast majority won't need 80% of these pads, but the basics like a yellow, orange, white and green pad cover most jobs. A finishing pad works great for a jewling polish like meguiars ultimate when you are chasing every bit of depth and clarity. The rest are for fine tuning in an experienced hand when chasing perfect finish or saving time. Last edited by RToyo86; 06-16-2020 at 12:19 PM. |
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