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Old 10-29-2019, 01:00 PM   #62273
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Well, it's a 4.5 seconds to 60 car that's faster 30-50 and 50 to 70 (driving in an automatic then flooring it until you've downshifted, accelerated, and hit that speed) than a new M5.

But normally we fill at home. And that's much cheaper.
Completely get that. I think if the electrification of the fleet hits critical mass I suspect charging away from home will be more expensive than gas now, just because the utilization of those stations won't be as high. If I drove an EV, there would probably be less than a a couple of dozen times a year I would need to charge away from home.

Just thought it was interesting to compare your "on the road" charging to what an ICE would cost in the same situation.
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Completely get that. I think if the electrification of the fleet hits critical mass I suspect charging away from home will be more expensive than gas now, just because the utilization of those stations won't be as high. If I drove an EV, there would probably be less than a a couple of dozen times a year I would need to charge away from home.

Just thought it was interesting to compare your "on the road" charging to what an ICE would cost in the same situation.
Made me curious since there are about 6 stations within about 10 minutes of work. Looks like most cost around $1.50 to $2 per hour. Not sure if there are hidden charges or how long it takes to "fill up" but don't see how it would cost me $38 to charge.


https://chargehub.com/en/stations/on...ml?locId=65975


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GM, Fiat Chrysler, Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, Kia, and Subaru are now on my shit list. I don't see myself buying any of their new products.
https://jalopnik.com/gm-fiat-chrysle...ith-1839438181
I'm sure they'll manage just fine without you.

given the way California has managed to increase it's homeless population, tax it's citizens into being forced to leave and practically encourage massive forest fires among a pile of other things it's probably a safe bet that taking the opposite side to their almost nonstop failed policies is a good idea.
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One of the amusing things about working for the same company for a long time and moving to several different positions is that there are some aspects of the past jobs you never fully escape. Over lunch today one of the company sales reps left a voicemail on my desk phone asking for help setting up her mobile with ActiveSync.

End user support is a job I haven't had for over 7 years. Don't even have access to open registration if I wanted to. I did send an email to the group who helps them out now, though.
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Brittany does and that's all can say about that.
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Is your complaint that they agreed with Trump, or that they don't want to conform to the more restrictive CA standards, or both?

I've never really delved into the details but I always thought it was odd that CA was allowed to do this anyway since its basically interstate commerce.

To me, in the end, if the manufacturers decided they didn't want to deal with the more restrictive standards, they would not sell cars in CA. In the end, if they all banded together they would have the power by just selling "49 state" cars. (Yea, I know its not that simple)
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In the world of cell phones, its not just if you do it in the same company. I have the same number now I as I had at my last company. I'd been gone for almost 3 years before I didn't get the occasional call from somes field sales person that didn't get the memo.
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Yeah, after leaving my last company for this one I ended up having to change my mobile number. The calls didn't stop even from those who knew. To be fair to them, the company was in the process of closing down, so they eliminated the position I left.
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Made me curious since there are about 6 stations within about 10 minutes of work. Looks like most cost around $1.50 to $2 per hour. Not sure if there are hidden charges or how long it takes to "fill up" but don't see how it would cost me $38 to charge.


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On your first link, there is a huge difference between the first and second charger (the second one is a fast charger at $20 per hour vs $1.50 for the first one)

Same with the second $2.50 vs $17.00. A full charge on the standard charger would take several hours I suspect, depending on the battery size.
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I've never really delved into the details but I always thought it was odd that CA was allowed to do this anyway since its basically interstate commerce.



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In the States it goes by where the car registered what laws it follows (for better or for worse). For example a Florida registered car could have limo tints all around just about and legally drive into Connecticut. Guaranteed they will pulled over because CT cops hate not being able to see inside of a car but they can't really ticket them. CT registered car they would give them a 20 days notice for inspection if they didn't make them rip off right there on the side of the road or get towed. Same is true for exhaust/emissions all depends on the state. CT they do a visual outside check for a cat and check the OBD-II at like 3k rpms for no CELs (and been though the factory determined cycle since last clear) that's it. No more sniffers because it too easy to just run dry gas and it cost too much money. We are starting to charge gas guzzler and/or luxury taxes on new vehicles though.

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On your first link, there is a huge difference between the first and second charger (the second one is a fast charger at $20 per hour vs $1.50 for the first one)

Same with the second $2.50 vs $17.00. A full charge on the standard charger would take several hours I suspect, depending on the battery size.
OH I didn't read far enough then! That makes far more sense. I was sort of baffled by the huge difference.
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In the States it goes by where the car registered what laws it follows (for better or for worse).k
Yea, I get that, but the emissions standard seems like it should be controlled at a higher level.

Also, the CA standards really only apply to the first 7,500 miles of a new car's life. After that, any car can be registered in CA (at least as I understand it). If they were really serious about it, they would restrict the registration of all cars to the stricter standard.
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