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Old 10-10-2020, 02:07 PM   #11019
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Impressive, and this is on pump gas? The real thing here is to develop/refine the foundation technology and start adapting it to other cars, that's where this could really take off. Looking at that dyno curve, if running on pump, it would give those Sprintex units a serious run for their money as is, as well as my Vortech kit (which is sot of the inverse of your curve ).
No no it's on e85 it would be amazing if this was pump. I'm thinking on pump it would make like 210/180 max. I have a buddy with a jrsc he's roughly pushing out 7psi and he too is on an e85 tune so pretty soon I'll be posting a comparison video. Of course he has more potential cuz he can get the high post pulley and make well over 300whp. But this is more fair because both systems are making about the same psi

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Old 10-10-2020, 04:22 PM   #11020
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No no it's on e85 it would be amazing if this was pump. I'm thinking on pump it would make like 210/180 max. I have a buddy with a jrsc he's roughly pushing out 7psi and he too is on an e85 tune so pretty soon I'll be posting a comparison video. Of course he has more potential cuz he can get the high post pulley and make well over 300whp. But this is more fair because both systems are making about the same psi

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Ok, still pretty impressive. You might give him a challenge with that torque curve...
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:44 PM   #11021
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Ok, still pretty impressive. You might give him a challenge with that torque curve...
Yea I'm thinking that as well here is his dyno numbers he might be making a lil more than what it says here since this was a mustang dyno and those are known for being slightly lowe. Blue line is 91 and red is E70 tune

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Old 10-15-2020, 11:58 AM   #11022
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I have seen these before, but 99% of all those are still driven via a PWM signal on the connector. What i like though is that is very very easy for me to send the right signal. What im thinking is

1, Get either off the shelf SEC that can handle the power (150A-200A)
2, create a board that connects to canbus ( il read the gas pedal to make a custom map so ramp up after 70% or something like that)
3, Control two relays to be able to shut off the charger while car is boosting and to turn off SEC when the car if completely off.

Only thing im missing now is a actual compressor/motor unit. And get myself OFT or something to flash my car to start testing out somethings. IF i get a good deal with a compressor il be able to speed up some prototyping.

To make something completely standalone i do need to figure out the 12v to 24v booster that can handle charging the dump pack at a decent rate.


As for PSI, im best assumption it had to do with the RPM of the motor, More RPM more psi.. and to get the max RPM what's needed is more voltage on the battery side (not necessarily more amps), so either 3 batteries in series, or perhaps li-ion cells in certain configuration to boost the RPM on the right psi needed to maintain high boost to redline.
if you build controller, i am in for one since i needed one.
or buy my whole unit.
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is it possible that only pedal switch can be burned? i found same switch online and give a try to swap out
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is it possible that only pedal switch can be burned? i found same switch online and give a try to swap out
You could try I would if it's not cheap. Talk to @Legend_FR-S he might have an extra switch

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Here's quick comparison with two modified fiestas. The first one (grey) is on boltons and stock modified BOV. The second one (orange) is on full boltons, fuel pump, built stock turbo on e30 pushing roughly ~315/305

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unfortunately this the way this is bodged together its still very very hard to actually trace everything out. and their can be like any of one of the systems can fail and none of it will work. Most likely i would toss most of the guts of this thing away. But trying to find a easy way to either improve the existing design with some replacement parts. Or just doing a complete replacement of everything. and most likely i will canbus enable this thing though. to get the gas pedal position and some minor other things that can be useful that the car can show us.
I have a similar issue as zc06. Controller stopped sending electricity from battery array to the impeller motor.
I don't need the money, but I would like a working electric system again. I'm willing to let you borrow the ESC I have for prototyping if you would like. I also have two Odyssey PC680 that are a few years old but probably a bitch to ship.
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:38 PM   #11028
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I have a similar issue as zc06. Controller stopped sending electricity from battery array to the impeller motor.

I don't need the money, but I would like a working electric system again. I'm willing to let you borrow the ESC I have for prototyping if you would like. I also have two Odyssey PC680 that are a few years old but probably a bitch to ship.

Let me know if you're interested



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I have a similar issue as zc06. Controller stopped sending electricity from battery array to the impeller motor.

I don't need the money, but I would like a working electric system again. I'm willing to let you borrow the ESC I have for prototyping if you would like. I also have two Odyssey PC680 that are a few years old but probably a bitch to ship.

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Have you tried replacing the dump batteries to to rule that out

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Have you tried replacing the dump batteries to to rule that out

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or check voltage meter.

my voltage works but number doesnt move even switch is engaged.
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or check voltage meter.

my voltage works but number doesnt move even switch is engaged.
yeah i've already tried it all. Voltage works fine. Already tried different batteries That pic is an old pic, i'm not using the ESC at all right now. Back to NA
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yeah i've already tried it all. Voltage works fine. Already tried different batteries That pic is an old pic, i'm not using the ESC at all right now. Back to NA
I also uninstalled mine but want to use it again for sure if someone can fix mine
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