Car won't shift into first gear - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Longjohnstrokems · 06-14-2016, 09:34 AM

So I've been having trouble shifting into first while I'm completely stopped. If the car goes into motion a little it will allow me to go into first but other than that I usually have to push it into third (which has no problem going into third while I'm stopped) and then shift into first so that I can go. Any advice??

KendallH · 06-14-2016, 10:15 AM

How many miles on your car? It could be the clutch release bearing going out. Or your transmission fluid needs to be changed.

Tcoat · 06-14-2016, 10:22 AM

Completely stock or have you changed anything?

guybo · 06-14-2016, 10:25 AM

When you get into first try this- stop the car with the clutch in and car in first. Does the car want to stall out if the brakes are on or creep forward with the brakes off?

humfrz · 06-14-2016, 05:26 PM

Welcome to the forum .........

Are you new to manual transmissions .. ??

How long has your car been doing this ..??

How often does it do it ... ??

If I had to guess, I would guess that the clutch is out of adjustment.

humfrz

billwot · 06-14-2016, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Longjohnstrokems

So I've been having trouble shifting into first while I'm completely stopped. If the car goes into motion a little it will allow me to go into first but other than that I usually have to push it into third (which has no problem going into third while I'm stoped) and then shift into first so that I can go. Any advice??

Gears are a series of teeth and roots. In order for 2 gears to mate, or mesh, the teeth of one gear must be matched with the roots of the other gear. If in a static state, they are facing tooth to tooth, obviously they cannot mesh.

And since 1st and reverse are almost never synchronized, you must manually "synchronize" the gears by either selecting another gear then going back to 1st, or simply going back to neutral, release the clutch, then go back to 1st. This allows the drive gear to re-orient itself. This condition will occasionally occur on any manual tranny. It is NOT a defect or malfunction.

Both of my MR2 Owner's Manuals included those specific instructions if you had difficulty selecting 1st or reverse.

MrDinkleman · 06-14-2016, 07:40 PM

As KendallH asks, how many miles on your car?

Being unable to shift into first at a stop is also an early sign of a worn clutch disk/pressure plate.

Packofcrows · 06-14-2016, 08:30 PM

Gogo dealer asap dude! Sounds to me like TOB...if car is new...which is what I am assuming.

tofurun · 06-14-2016, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo

When you get into first try this- stop the car with the clutch in and car in first. Does the car want to stall out if the brakes are on or creep forward with the brakes off?

^ What he said

Longjohnstrokems · 06-14-2016, 10:48 PM

It's got about 38,000 I got it used around November. Also my first two cars I've had prior were a clutch so I don't ride the clutch to wear it down. Also the dealership I got it from said they put a new clutch on it before I bought it. So maybe just transmission fluid would be a start??

Longjohnstrokems · 06-14-2016, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo

When you get into first try this- stop the car with the clutch in and car in first. Does the car want to stall out if the brakes are on or creep forward with the brakes off?

No it still stays running. But if I were to try to force it into first it will stall out from that

tofurun · 06-14-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Longjohnstrokems

No it still stays running. But if I were to try to force it into first it will stall out from that

the next question coming at you is gonna be. turn the car off. put the car in 1st gear. start the car with the clutch all the way down (<--obviously LOL) with the car still in first. whats it do? make sure there is nothing in front of u when u do this just incase. does the car sit still (dont hit the brakes) or do you feel it creep or hop when car turn on.

-if it creeps then clutch could be going out/bad/worn clutch fluid leaking Master clutch cylinder going out. alot of time if its leaking or master clutch cylinder then you will lose the pedal ever now and again

No matter what 38k is under 60k warranty so its covered unless ur modded or tuned

Ultramaroon · 06-14-2016, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Longjohnstrokems

It's got about 38,000 I got it used around November. Also my first two cars I've had prior were a clutch so I don't ride the clutch to wear it down. Also the dealership I got it from said they put a new clutch on it before I bought it. So maybe just transmission fluid would be a start??

Can you get it into reverse? If yes, it's not the clutch.

thomasmryan · 06-15-2016, 12:58 AM

goose it and pump the clutch ending down then try to engage first while the input shaft is still spinning

06-14-2016, 09:34 AM	#1
Longjohnstrokems Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: Red Scion FR-S Location: Maryland Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Car won't shift into first gear So I've been having trouble shifting into first while I'm completely stopped. If the car goes into motion a little it will allow me to go into first but other than that I usually have to push it into third (which has no problem going into third while I'm stopped) and then shift into first so that I can go. Any advice??

06-14-2016, 10:22 AM	#3
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Completely stock or have you changed anything? __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

06-14-2016, 08:30 PM	#8
Packofcrows hey you, yeah you <3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2014 37J FR-S Location: Monterey County, CA Posts: 2,713 Thanks: 905 Thanked 1,258 Times in 809 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Gogo dealer asap dude! Sounds to me like TOB...if car is new...which is what I am assuming. __________________ Got my TRD wheels and TRD louvers. Thanks!!!

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KendallH Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Base, 1997 Jeep Wrangler Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 107 Thanks: 4 Thanked 136 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How many miles on your car? It could be the clutch release bearing going out. Or your transmission fluid needs to be changed.

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guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When you get into first try this- stop the car with the clutch in and car in first. Does the car want to stall out if the brakes are on or creep forward with the brakes off?

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humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 29,868 Thanks: 28,790 Thanked 31,816 Times in 16,425 Posts Mentioned: 708 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Welcome to the forum ......... Are you new to manual transmissions .. ?? How long has your car been doing this ..?? How often does it do it ... ?? If I had to guess, I would guess that the clutch is out of adjustment. humfrz

06-14-2016, 07:40 PM	#7
MrDinkleman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2016 Oceanic, "base" model Location: Gardena, CA Posts: 398 Thanks: 129 Thanked 179 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	As KendallH asks, how many miles on your car? Being unable to shift into first at a stop is also an early sign of a worn clutch disk/pressure plate.

06-14-2016, 10:48 PM	#10
Longjohnstrokems Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: Red Scion FR-S Location: Maryland Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's got about 38,000 I got it used around November. Also my first two cars I've had prior were a clutch so I don't ride the clutch to wear it down. Also the dealership I got it from said they put a new clutch on it before I bought it. So maybe just transmission fluid would be a start??

06-15-2016, 12:58 AM	#14
thomasmryan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: hyper blue Location: east tn Posts: 401 Thanks: 166 Thanked 260 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	goose it and pump the clutch ending down then try to engage first while the input shaft is still spinning

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