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Old 01-16-2022, 09:54 PM   #29
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So according to one YTer who speaks Japanese, Akio Toyoda was saying in a press conference the GR GT3 is all new and not shared with any other car… but this has to be a shared platform with the potential RX, right? The dimensions and profile are simply too close for them not to be related somehow.

Edit - also, what is with people saying this is a potential new Supra or Celica? It seems obvious to me this is far above those, if anything the road going version is mostly like to be called the ‘Toyota GR GT (or GT3)’ in honour of the original 2000GT.
I agree. Maybe at a stretch they could call it the Celica, but I think GR GT sounds about right.

Also seems like Akio is more excited for the in-house builds than the collabs lately
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I agree. Maybe at a stretch they could call it the Celica, but I think GR GT sounds about right.

Also seems like Akio is more excited for the in-house builds than the collabs lately
He's tired of seeing his name and company dragged on internet message boards
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He's tired of seeing his name and company dragged on internet message boards
IT used to be "Toyotas are boring"
Now its "Toyota doesnt make its own sports cars!"

I bet the next one is "Toyota is overcharging for its in house sports cars! and us mere mortals cannot afford it!!!"
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"Toyota is doing <iconic Toyota car nameplate> all wrong!"

Theres also the favorite of EV snobs: "Toyota is well known to be anti-EV's! they're going to fall so far behind the times and I cant wait until their unethical oil sucking company goes bankrupt! when everyone has gone EV and Toyota has no one left to sell gasoline cars to!"
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IT used to be "Toyotas are boring"
Now its "Toyota doesnt make its own sports cars!"

I bet the next one is "Toyota is overcharging for its in house sports cars! and us mere mortals cannot afford it!!!"
or
"Toyota is doing <iconic Toyota car nameplate> all wrong!"

Theres also the favorite of EV snobs: "Toyota is well known to be anti-EV's! they're going to fall so far behind the times and I cant wait until their unethical oil sucking company goes bankrupt! when everyone has gone EV and Toyota has no one left to sell gasoline cars to!"
Those damned goalposts just keep on moving, don't they?
I mean, what the hell does Toyota know? All they've done is become the largest automaker (depending on when you're looking) with high sales across multiple continents, multiple environments with a variety of different infrastructure....
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While it's clearly a concept, Akio does talk about wanting to make a car that wins in motorsport and then making it into a production car at 1:08. So you never know. The end of the video does also mention "customer motorsports." So I wonder if this might be something along the lines of Porsche's cup cars, made by Toyota and sold to racing teams, with a production car to come down the line.
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Pretty unimaginative wheels for a concept

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Those damned goalposts just keep on moving, don't they?
I mean, what the hell does Toyota know? All they've done is become the largest automaker (depending on when you're looking) with high sales across multiple continents, multiple environments with a variety of different infrastructure....
Ya but that GT3 should sell for $50K TOPS or they are dumb. There is such huge demand for this car that if they don't build 200,000 units a year they are fools.
Oh and they better make sure they get early ones out to the aftermarket well ahead of time so that people can change every single design aspect of the car before they even buy it!
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Yes, they are.
That said, it is a motorsports concept. There aren't that many wheel designs in motorsports. Physics simply doesn't allow for it if one's goal is to win. And I'm alright with that in this case.
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Yes, they are.

That said, it is a motorsports concept. There aren't that many wheel designs in motorsports. Physics simply doesn't allow for it if one's goal is to win. And I'm alright with that in this case.
Fair call. They definitely look light.

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I don't mean this as a negative, but that front end reminds me of the Gen 10 Civic Type R (shape of the headlights and grille).
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I don't mean this as a negative, but that front end reminds me of the Gen 10 Civic Type R (shape of the headlights and grille).
They are running out of design cues so everything pretty much will remind people of something at this point. They are only so many angles to go around.
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They are running out of design cues so everything pretty much will remind people of something at this point. They are only so many angles to go around.
TBF, the front-end of new BMWs look like nothing else on the road.

And I am eternally-thankful for that.
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TBF, the front-end of new BMWs look like nothing else on the road.

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True. I will change my wording.
They are running out of design cues that include pleasing angles...
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