Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!

[RRnold]

As a MKIV Supra owner, I've been following the FT-1 thread on Supraforums and even the SupraMKV forum. A good majority of Supra owners, esp the older forum members are not as excited with the so called Supra mule.

I've followed the FT86 concept back in 07 till the joint partnership announcement of Toyota and Subaru. After that, the GT86 no longer met my expectations. I'm seeing the similar trend with this Toyota and BMW joint partnership.

[MurderousPandas]

Originally Posted by RRnold

As a MKIV Supra owner, I've been following the FT-1 thread on Supraforums and even the SupraMKV forum. A good majority of Supra owners, esp the older forum members are not as excited with the so called Supra mule.

I've followed the FT86 concept back in 07 till the joint partnership announcement of Toyota and Subaru. After that, the GT86 no longer met my expectations. I'm seeing the similar trend with this Toyota and BMW joint partnership.

I think BMW and Toyota can pull it off. Toyota seems to be good at making long, sleek coupes still as demonstrated by the twins. And BMW is known for modern I6's. It won't be the same, but i'm sure fun is still a factor in production, how can you make a Supra and forget to add the fun?

"Chasing speed with patience"

[vh_supra26]

[slow86]

I really do feel like Toyota is going to f*ck this up...I really do

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by RRnold

As a MKIV Supra owner, I've been following the FT-1 thread on Supraforums and even the SupraMKV forum. A good majority of Supra owners, esp the older forum members are not as excited with the so called Supra mule.

I've followed the FT86 concept back in 07 till the joint partnership announcement of Toyota and Subaru. After that, the GT86 no longer met my expectations. I'm seeing the similar trend with this Toyota and BMW joint partnership.

its a disguised prototype. a quick reminder of what the almighty MK4 looked liked while testing.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by MurderousPandas

I think BMW and Toyota can pull it off. Toyota seems to be good at making long, sleek coupes still as demonstrated by the twins. And BMW is known for modern I6's. It won't be the same, but i'm sure fun is still a factor in production, how can you make a Supra and forget to add the fun?

"Chasing speed with patience"

Do you think the twins are long and sleek? IMO, I don't think they are at all but true Toyota can still design cars. It's when they cut corners with joint partnerships is where they start to lose their essence.

Honestly, the LC-500 is what the Supra MKV should resemble. Just like how the SC300/400 was released then the Supra in the 90's, it would only make sense for history to repeat itself with the LC and then Supra MKV with very distinctive similarities.

Originally Posted by gymratter

its a disguised prototype. a quick reminder of what the almighty MK4 looked liked while testing.

You can still see the MKIV body though. At least it spawned from the early/ugly Supra designs.

It did take a while before Toyota came up with the legendary design.

[slow86]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Do you think the twins are long and sleek?

The twins are about the size as the Celica - short and bubbly. When I think of long and sleek, I think of the Supra or its twin, the SC300/400.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by RRnold

You can still see the MKIV body though. At least it spawned from the early/ugly Supra designs.

the same can be said about prototype; you can start to clearly see the FT1 influence taking shape.

Originally Posted by slow86

The twins are about the size as the Celica - short and bubbly. When I think of long and sleek, I think of the Supra or its cousin, the SC300/400.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by slow86

The twins are about the size as the Celica - short and bubbly. When I think of long and sleek, I think of the Supra or its twin, the SC300/400.

Not when seen side by side they aren't!

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by MurderousPandas

I think BMW and Toyota can pull it off. Toyota seems to be good at making long, sleek coupes still as demonstrated by the twins.

Originally Posted by slow86

The twins are about the size as the Celica - short and bubbly. When I think of long and sleek, I think of the Supra or its twin, the SC300/400.

Exactly, I don't think the twins are long and sleek at all. The twins are more Celica size.

Originally Posted by gymratter

the same can be said about prototype; you can start to clearly see the FT1 influence taking shape.

Even though it has similar styling as the FT-1, it still looks tame. With full BMW interior, I'm still not fully convinced it's the Supra MKV.

The LC was dubbed "heavily camouflaged" too yet you can still see it's True Toyota muscle...wolf in sheep's clothing.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Exactly, I don't think the twins are long and sleek at all. The twins are more Celica size.

Even though it has similar styling as the FT-1, it still looks tame. With full BMW interior, I'm still not fully convinced it's the Supra MKV.

The LC was dubbed "heavily camouflaged" too yet you can still see it's True Toyota muscle...wolf in sheep's clothing.

it isn't uncommon for prototypes to use parts from the part bin while testing.

on the LC prototype there are still a lot of details being hidden. i'll reserve judgement on the new Supra until they show the real thing.

the twins aren't that much smaller than the MK4. even supraforum's moderator KenHenderson agreed with this statement.

I'm with this guy. Besides, the MKIV and FR-S are closer in size than it may appear:

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by gymratter

it isn't uncommon for prototypes to use parts from the part bin while testing.

on the LC prototype there are still a lot of details being hidden. i'll reserve judgement on the new Supra until they show the real thing.

the twins aren't that much smaller than the MK4. even supraforum's moderator KenHenderson agreed with this statement.

I did see Ken's post on SF but with a close height, there is a significant length difference.

I do agree that they share parts but this late in the game, a full BMW interior not only shows who has more control of the project but can also mean, this could not be the Supra.

I doubt Toyota would allow that on such a legendary halo car and they would have been doing backflips on the car already. They don't fully disguise their prize like the Germans do. I too am waiting on the official announcement from Toyota.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by RRnold

I did see Ken's post on SF but with a close height, there is a significant length difference.

I do agree that they share parts but this late in the game, a full BMW interior not only shows who has more control of the project but can also mean, this could not be the Supra.

I doubt Toyota would allow that on such a legendary halo car and they would have been doing backflips on the car already. They don't fully disguise their prize like the Germans do. I too am waiting on the official announcement from Toyota.

sorry but that comparison photo isn't actuate. there is only 10.9 inches between the two. the 86 also has a longer wheel wheelbase than the MK4

Supra MK4
Wheelbase: 100.4 in
Length: 177.8 in

86
Wheelbase: 101.2 in
Length: 166.9 in

i know a lot of people are saying its the "Z5 coupe". but it doesnt make sense for BMW to put a penis nose on their prototype. it also doesn't make sense for the coupe to have different lines than the roadster. the only official announcement we have is the BMW/Toyota press release where they state that they are working on a joint midsize sports car.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by gymratter

sorry but that comparison photo isn't actuate. there is only 10.9 inches between the two. the 86 also has a longer wheel wheelbase than the MK4

Supra MK4
Wheelbase: 100.4 in
Length: 177.8 in

86
Wheelbase: 101.2 in
Length: 166.9 in

i know a lot of people are saying its the "Z5 coupe". but it doesnt make sense for BMW to put a penis nose on their prototype. it also doesn't make sense for the coupe to have different lines than the roadster. the only official announcement we have is the BMW/Toyota press release where they state that they are working on a joint midsize sports car.

Only 10.9", that's a lot don't you think?

Penis nose

You know how the German's do it.