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Old 01-27-2019, 10:24 AM   #8247
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If you guys had to choose a tune which would shop/tuner would you use for a remote tune:

Moto-east
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Drift office

Leaning towards Moto East as the current owner of the kit had Moto East and everything was good
but I would love to hear peoples thoughts. I know James from HRI is good but he does not do remote tunes anymore.

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From what I’ve heard Moto East is the “king” of this supercharger. But i have no personal experience with them.

With that being said i did choose Delicious Tuning they seemed to be more
Involved on forums, great customer service, and have probably remote tuned more twins in general then anyone. And they have a shop car with the innovate they DD and always refine and revise the tune.

I’m not sure if Drift Office even remote tunes? They are a respected tuning shop and have tuned a lot of twins as well. But not sure how many innovate kits they have tuned based on some of their early posts about the kit.

Really can’t go wrong with any of those choices though to be honest.
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Keep the replies coming. Can't wait to run this kit on the car in the sig below with e85. No more slow FRS anymore.

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Now the next question 70mm vs 72.5. car will mostly run e85 but I will not be going flex fuel right away( in the future I will) so from time to time I may need to run 91. Also at the track I would only run 91 and maybe mix in some higher octane to help with knock protection Iam picking up a used 210 with intercooler setup. I am leaning towards the 72.5 for the best balance for when running 91. Also plan on running stock pump and injectors. Thoughts?

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I'm having a great time on 72.5 with 92 octane. Couldn't speak for 70, but tried 69 and it didn't feel as fast.
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Now the next question 70mm vs 72.5. car will mostly run e85 but I will not be going flex fuel right away( in the future I will) so from time to time I may need to run 91. Also at the track I would only run 91 and maybe mix in some higher octane to help with knock protection Iam picking up a used 210 with intercooler setup. I am leaning towards the 72.5 for the best balance for when running 91. Also plan on running stock pump and injectors. Thoughts?

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Running E85 tune with FI without flex fuel is a little risky.

On 91octane it’s also probably a bit risky going below the 75mm.

Heat is sort of an issue on this kit with continuous hard driving. Meth or E85 will help with that a lot.

IMO I would stick to the 75mm with 91, and swith to flex fuel E85 with the 70mm pulley all at once later on when you can.

You’ll have a lot of fun with the 75mm and once it starts getting “boring” you have another big jump you can make to liven it up again. The jump from 75mm on 91 to 70mm on E85 will be as much as the original jump from bone stock to 75mm on 91 with header. 170whp to 230whp to 290whp

75mm pulley should make you about as fast as a 2019 370z then going E85 on the 70mm should make you about as fast as a 2019 mustang gt
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I wonder if I should just do flex fuel right off the bat...

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I wonder if I should just do flex fuel right off the bat...

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Do it. E85 is magic on FI. But with out FF if you get a bad batch of E85 and no FF to compensate your going to have a bad time.
But your going to need to look at fuel pump and injectors, you’ll tap out the stock fuel system quick with the 70mm on E85. Might be able to get by fine on 75mm have to talk to your tuner on that one.
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Do it. E85 is magic on FI. But with out FF if you get a bad batch of E85 and no FF to compensate your going to have a bad time.

But your going to need to look at fuel pump and injectors, you’ll tap out the stock fuel system quick with the 70mm on E85. Might be able to get by fine on 75mm have to talk to your tuner on that one.
I think I will start at the 72. There are ppl running on the 72 with stock fuelling systems and injectors. I need to keep some funds for a few other supporting funds. Plus if I need to run 100% 91 then the 72 pulley will be better balance vs 70. At some point I will get tuned for the 70mm pulley and I really don't want to start at the 75mm pulley either...

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Wanted to see if anyone here had good insight into this. Any help is appreciated.

My car has been increasingly lagging/jolting under load, and will occasionally die while idling. Cold temps have made it worse, and while it gets better once the car is warmed up, it still happens some. Specifically, if I press and hold the accelerator, even when pretty tame, it will accelerate, stop accelerating (kinda hiccup) and jolt back into the acceleration.

Car setup is:
210 non-IC
72.5mm pulley
FlexFuel w/ tune from MotoEast
ACT clutch (not sure which; I didn't choose it)
Stock fuel pump and injectors.

I've dailied the car for two years and 24k miles with no relevant issues. If I had to guess, it's either spark plugs, which are due at next service, or belt slipping, which I've never swapped. Could also be injectors, but I'm doubting it since it occurs on pump gas and E85. Don't think it's the tune for the same reason. Clutch grabs fine at higher loads too, so don't think it's that either.

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Wanted to see if anyone here had good insight into this. Any help is appreciated.

My car has been increasingly lagging/jolting under load, and will occasionally die while idling. Cold temps have made it worse, and while it gets better once the car is warmed up, it still happens some. Specifically, if I press and hold the accelerator, even when pretty tame, it will accelerate, stop accelerating (kinda hiccup) and jolt back into the acceleration.

Car setup is:
210 non-IC
72.5mm pulley
FlexFuel w/ tune from MotoEast
ACT clutch (not sure which; I didn't choose it)
Stock fuel pump and injectors.

I've dailied the car for two years and 24k miles with no relevant issues. If I had to guess, it's either spark plugs, which are due at next service, or belt slipping, which I've never swapped. Could also be injectors, but I'm doubting it since it occurs on pump gas and E85. Don't think it's the tune for the same reason. Clutch grabs fine at higher loads too, so don't think it's that either.

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I ran into something similar. Does it happen if you wiggle the wire harness that connects to the sensor on the intake manifold?

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Old 01-30-2019, 03:40 PM   #8257
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I think I will start at the 72. There are ppl running on the 72 with stock fuelling systems and injectors. I need to keep some funds for a few other supporting funds. Plus if I need to run 100% 91 then the 72 pulley will be better balance vs 70. At some point I will get tuned for the 70mm pulley and I really don't want to start at the 75mm pulley either...

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Hey man I have a used 210 Intercooled setup I installed later last year. Had it tuned through Open Flash as I already had the OFT. It's working pretty nicely. I am running the 75mm pulley and will most likely keep it with that pulley because our CA 91 is not that great. Even with Chevron I had a lot of knock with the base tune that was provided and had to scale back the timing to minimize it. This SC heat soaks a bit I've heard. Haven't experienced it much as I don't track the car and so far it's been cool here in SoCal (I've only had the SC installed since Nov 18). Once it starts heating up here it might start heat soaking for me but I'll have to wait and see. It's my daily and I'm in traffic a lot which leads it to heat soak quick. Just wanted to give you a bit of my experience. If you are thinking of running flex fuel I'd say save money and do it now so you can get it tuned once and be done with it. With flex fuel 72.5mm and 70mm would work great I'd think.

I went from UEL header and OFT stage 2 tune to the SC with 75mm pulley and UEL header and it's a big difference alone. The torque in 1st and 2nd is awesome and I can speed up quickly off a light or getting onto the interstate. Also sticking with the 75mm because of the piece of mind that I'm not putting more than 9psi of stress on the stock rods and head gasket.
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Hey man I have a used 210 Intercooled setup I installed later last year. Had it tuned through Open Flash as I already had the OFT. It's working pretty nicely. I am running the 75mm pulley and will most likely keep it with that pulley because our CA 91 is not that great. Even with Chevron I had a lot of knock with the base tune that was provided and had to scale back the timing to minimize it. This SC heat soaks a bit I've heard. Haven't experienced it much as I don't track the car and so far it's been cool here in SoCal (I've only had the SC installed since Nov 18). Once it starts heating up here it might start heat soaking for me but I'll have to wait and see. It's my daily and I'm in traffic a lot which leads it to heat soak quick. Just wanted to give you a bit of my experience. If you are thinking of running flex fuel I'd say save money and do it now so you can get it tuned once and be done with it. With flex fuel 72.5mm and 70mm would work great I'd think.



I went from UEL header and OFT stage 2 tune to the SC with 75mm pulley and UEL header and it's a big difference alone. The torque in 1st and 2nd is awesome and I can speed up quickly off a light or getting onto the interstate. Also sticking with the 75mm because of the piece of mind that I'm not putting more than 9psi of stress on the stock rods and head gasket.
Thanks for the insight! Looking for it. What psi would the 72.5 put out 10ish would be my guess which is still not insane but respect your reasoning. That wine will be hard to not dip into throttle all the time.. how much of a hit did you see with the sc added?

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Thanks for the insight! Looking for it. What psi would the 72.5 put out 10ish would be my guess which is still not insane but respect your reasoning. That wine will be hard to not dip into throttle all the time.. how much of a hit did you see with the sc added?

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The 75mm is advertised at 9psi, the 69 is advertised at 12psi, the 72.5mm is advertised at 10.5psi, but I’d think the 72mm pulley would actually be 10.5.

Bahn Brenner actually has the 72mm along with a lot of other sizes. Im currently in the works of getting a 72mm and meth injection (no e85 nearby sadly)

I went full blown NA build with ace header to sprintex with 75mm atm massive difference.
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Thanks for the insight! Looking for it. What psi would the 72.5 put out 10ish would be my guess which is still not insane but respect your reasoning. That wine will be hard to not dip into throttle all the time.. how much of a hit did you see with the sc added?

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Yeah looks like it should be around 10 PSI for the 72.5mm.

Yeah I'm always going full throttle from a stop and merging on interstate but stuck in traffic a good amount of time commuting to work. I went from 27-28 mpg average to 24-25 mpg . Well worth it! The wine and torque is awesome.
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