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Old 09-07-2016, 07:51 PM   #1079
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If you look closely at the taillights, it actualy looks like those lights are stuck on over a 86-esque taillight on the inside of the camo. I think the lights are just stuck on for road legality. Same with the front lights and bumper.
Yeah, hopefully they stay pretty true to the concept. We will see!
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Finally, someone understands what a test mule is :p
You should see the heads exploding on Jalopnik... Everyone is convinced those are going to be the production taillights...
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smh, people are so freaking stupid.
People on Jalopnik are some of the most retarded human beings around.
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its gona be like 2009 all over again,

Ready for some Castrol livery and JGTC mock ups? god knows i am
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Ready for some Castrol livery and JGTC mock ups? god knows i am
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$39,950 - Base model with 6MT and 400hp TT V6 *Fingers Crossed*

Or ditch the turbos, give me a N/A 3.5 V6 and sell it at $34K. That would make me super-duper happy.

Also I think they intentionally made the front bumper and rear lights look like the last Supra to fuck with spy photographers and the internet. It won't be that in the final product.

Too the car...

I think it is a safe bet that the body structure is a lock. If the car is going to have any of the crazy arches, scoops, or other elements of the FT-1 concept it would be apparent here. You don't just widen the car at the last minute. I also think that means we can rule out hybrid tech or other wiz-bang elements. Where would you put it and how would it be cooled?

I see the simplicity of the sheet-metal as being a clear indication of a very intense round of cost-engineering to bring the care in line with the V8 Muscle cars and possibly the G37/ Q60. People talking about a C7 or even GT-R competitor were way off.

I dunno, this doesn't look like some cobbled together mule. It is apparent that they are fast approaching production so you can't really decide to go back and redesign the chassis. The exception being the front bumper and headlight design that may yet mirror some of the FT-1.

We have seen arguments over test mules less complete than this with people claiming the final product will be completely different. They rarely are. (Hyperbole)

But I want this to be a sub-$40K car. Since we likely won't be getting a more powerful 86 anytime soon, this may be the next financially-illogical step.
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oh god...its happening..
Brilliant!

And @mazeroni i hate to say it, but I really hope you're wrong. Sub 40k for that performance level means it has to sacrifice a lot to get to that price point. I hope it's 60-80k, well equipped and plenty powerful. Hybrid stuff has been all but guaranteed since the beginning, and I'm okay with that too. This isn't a back to basics car, this is is supposed to be Alduin the World Eater.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Toyota has already scrapped a mule before this and started fresh, but most people aren't aware of that. They'll happily do it again if it means getting it right.
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Edit: Oh yeah, and Toyota has already scrapped a mule before this and started fresh, but most people aren't aware of that. They'll happily do it again if it means getting it right.
Didn't they do that with the LF-A? Which, also really increased the price of the car, and they still were at negative with each unit sold???
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Brilliant!

And @mazeroni i hate to say it, but I really hope you're wrong. Sub 40k for that performance level means it has to sacrifice a lot to get to that price point. I hope it's 60-80k, well equipped and plenty powerful. Hybrid stuff has been all but guaranteed since the beginning, and I'm okay with that too. This isn't a back to basics car, this is is supposed to be Alduin the World Eater.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Toyota has already scrapped a mule before this and started fresh, but most people aren't aware of that. They'll happily do it again if it means getting it right.
I do recall that mule,

Also some people are forgetting this thing is sharing platform with the BMW Z5 so expect the price point to be around 55k/60k+ USD starting for the Supra. Likely to go as high as 80k If the current z4 is any indication of how pricing trends will be published in 2017 and 2018 for the z5 model.

FYI while im decamoing this thing and discovering lines hidden in the swirls...its definitely a chassis test on their latest model that the final product is going to be based on. Had this been maybe a powertrain or suspension test run, this "mule" would have looked totally different IMO.
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Brilliant!

And @mazeroni i hate to say it, but I really hope you're wrong. Sub 40k for that performance level means it has to sacrifice a lot to get to that price point. I hope it's 60-80k, well equipped and plenty powerful. Hybrid stuff has been all but guaranteed since the beginning, and I'm okay with that too. This isn't a back to basics car, this is is supposed to be Alduin the World Eater.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Toyota has already scrapped a mule before this and started fresh, but most people aren't aware of that. They'll happily do it again if it means getting it right.
My guess is ~$55k-$65k. Corvette / Jaguar F Type / M2 and M3 price ranges. It IS a Toyota after all, so anything higher than $65k might make me scratch my head at this one. But time will tell, and its just as likely it'll be more expensive than I thought. I mean Toyota did just recently do a "wtf" with the '17 86 base MSRP.
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