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Old 12-07-2016, 10:32 AM   #15
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EDR data is saved and written over every 30 seconds. How they recorded data longer than that I don't know unless the EDR records longer than 30 seconds.
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The ambient temp reading is different from what it was the day of failure....
While it certainly sounds from all the other info you have you have a solid case, I wouldn't put a lot of hope in the ambient temp difference. If it's the same sensor used to display it on the dash, it's pretty well guaranteed not to match what the official temperature is. Those are read in two completely different ways, and environmental conditions where the car is located can cause wide swings from "recorded official temperature".
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I honestly suggest this be a case where you find a lawyer in addition to what you've done (just talking to one shouldn't cost you anything). Toyota is stonewalling you and not providing you service, despite evidence proving (that they themselves provided) you did nothing wrong to void the warranty. If the consumer protection bureau is unable to get Toyota to do anything and advocate for you, you need to seek damages here. You have been wronged.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:07 PM   #18
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EDR data is saved and written over every 30 seconds. How they recorded data longer than that I don't know unless the EDR records longer than 30 seconds.
They advised me that the freeze frame data was pulled with a code P0303 and it just records it when an active code is thrown at the moment its thrown. But at the time of failure, my car did not have a misfire at all and still doesnt. It was idling fine when i pulled over before i realized it was oil. So i know that code wasnt specifically thrown in relation to this failure, but another time and just happened to be the last in the system.

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While it certainly sounds from all the other info you have you have a solid case, I wouldn't put a lot of hope in the ambient temp difference. If it's the same sensor used to display it on the dash, it's pretty well guaranteed not to match what the official temperature is. Those are read in two completely different ways, and environmental conditions where the car is located can cause wide swings from "recorded official temperature".
Definitely not relying on it, but when you throw it in with all the other factors it definitely doesnt hurt my case haha.

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I honestly suggest this be a case where you find a lawyer in addition to what you've done (just talking to one shouldn't cost you anything). Toyota is stonewalling you and not providing you service, despite evidence proving (that they themselves provided) you did nothing wrong to void the warranty. If the consumer protection bureau is unable to get Toyota to do anything and advocate for you, you need to seek damages here. You have been wronged.
I am working on finding a good local lawyer that is willing to help.
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Also interesting. The dealer attempted to deny my warranty for a completely different reason, with no official Toyota documentation or notation of review with Toyota and then was willing to offer me $4,000 for my car "because the engine is a limited production engine and not available used and my car would need to be auctioned off".....
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:33 PM   #20
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Take this for what it is worth but if you haven't posted this yet DON'T! You literally hand them all of your case on a platter and if this goes further they will now have a chance to prepare a counter for each point. Talk to a lawyer before going this route. You may even want to delete it from here since it would be fairly easy to find.
ill delete it, unquote it lol
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ill delete it, unquote it lol
Done. You obviously saw my point.
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Done. You obviously saw my point.
Damn.. now I wanna see!!
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Good luck man. I really really hope you're done right...
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So do i. This is my 6th Toyota and could potentially be my last right here.
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Guys, with respect to "freeze frame" data:

1. The system records a multitude of vehicle operating parameters every half second.

2. When a qualifying fault is detected, a snapshot is saved. The snapshot includes 2 or 3 preceding (I don't remember exactly) freeze frames, another at the time of the fault, and one more immediately after. The snapshot is read/downloaded by techstream.


I don't think this is the EDR. I have no idea how that works. :/
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