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Old 05-18-2010, 03:53 AM   #29
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Ah, but you can't fertilize your veggie garden with used oil!
Well... you could.
I'm just saying... it's an option.
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Old 05-16-2015, 04:19 PM   #30
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Am I the only one interested in the future of this technology from a performance perspective?
Didn't they get banned from F1 cars for giving rich teams an unfair advantage over poor teams?

I could be the only one, but remaining in the optimal rev-range throughout all speeds seems incredibly nifty to me.

I understand that they have their problems, and I don't think they're ready for a true performance rig, but I'm quite interested in the future of this sort of tranny.
I've had the chance to compare a CVT head-to-head with a 6-speed automatic. It's a perfectly economical choice for people who consider driving to be a chore. If you don't care how it feels, that's fine for you, and more economical.

I like to compare it to going from 0 - 100 MPH on a runway in an airplane, or going going from 0 - 100 MPH on a runway in an automatic BRZ. The airplane doesn't shift and just provides steady acceleration, while the BRZ shifts through the gears from 1st to 6th. The BRZ is much more exciting, while the airplane is much more comfortable and even relaxing.

A direct-drive electric motor is even more efficient than a CVT, since there are no power-train losses. Why not go electric?
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Old 05-16-2015, 05:25 PM   #31
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This is from 2010. He hasn't been on this forum since 2011. I don't think he cares. How did you even find this thread?
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Am I the only one interested in the future of this technology from a performance perspective?
Didn't they get banned from F1 cars for giving rich teams an unfair advantage over poor teams?

I could be the only one, but remaining in the optimal rev-range throughout all speeds seems incredibly nifty to me.

I understand that they have their problems, and I don't think they're ready for a true performance rig, but I'm quite interested in the future of this sort of tranny.
Yes

Heheh, tranny. Do a google image search with that term and you will get something with more balls than a CVT.

There is a place for these, but not in any sort of performance car. Some grocery getter, sure, why not? It's low stress and nobody is in a hurry, perfect situation for a scooter drivetrain.

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Well the perfect powerplant would be instant 100% power and constant throughout a large range in speed. This way a transmission is not needed and cuts down the inefficiencies. Yes, it could multiply using a ratio via a tranny but if you had the perfect engine why bother sapping out the power of it using a tranny?

Then again, I'm no car engineer... I just love driving them.
You described an electric car. Yes please!

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Early Mazda wankels had their share of problems, but much of the Apex issue can be resolved using FD seals.

On a sidenote, the dark myth behind wankels being impossible to work on is completely bullshit. It is by far the simplest engine I've ever had the pleasure of helping tear apart and rebuild. I mean its REALLY simple. So even if it does go out, you can (with some practice), remove, tear down, and rebuild a wankel within a day. Getting everything setup properly again can be a hassle, the but the actual tear down and rebuild? Stupid easy.
I'm sure the OP is a fan of the rotary, I mean, it's new and all things new must be better, right?

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You described an electric car. Yes please!

Exactly.
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No idea how this thread got resurrected but I am having a blast watching Themad ragging on guys that haven't been here for 4 years.
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Well the perfect powerplant would be instant 100% power and constant throughout a large range in speed. This way a transmission is not needed and cuts down the inefficiencies. Yes, it could multiply using a ratio via a tranny but if you had the perfect engine why bother sapping out the power of it using a tranny?

Then again, I'm no car engineer... I just love driving them.
in a nutshell this is the new koenigsegg regera
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No idea how this thread got resurrected but I am having a blast watching Themad ragging on guys that haven't been here for 4 years.
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No idea how this thread got resurrected but I am having a blast watching Themad ragging on guys that haven't been here for 4 years.
He is owning them so hard...they won't even respond.
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It'll be a cold day in Hell before I own a car equipped with a sh*tty CVT
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I feel uncomfortable driving a regular automatic...never mind a CVT. I am a control freak, though.
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I hate the one in my Wife's Mini. It needs a hunting license; it can't decide what gear it wants. Up, down, down, up, what? Sometimes I get so pissed I just slap it over ito the +/- and start banging the ears myself. The car goes from a sluggish, confused lump to a darn quick racy little car that I think could run my BRZ down with a good driver. I should have got her the paddle shift model. Autos are annoying in a performance car.
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