follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-23-2020, 10:11 PM   #1
Howaitoguru
Senior Member
 
Howaitoguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: GA
Posts: 283
Thanks: 113
Thanked 95 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
2JZ Datsun 1200 pickup?

Does anyone know if this has been done or if it could be done? The Datsun Sunny truck is the only truck I like the look of and a 2JZ would be nasty. I know they did it with the 1200 coupe and I know they’ve K swapped and SR swapped them. Would the engine bay be big enough?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Howaitoguru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2020, 10:15 PM   #2
jbsali
Senior Member
 
jbsali's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ (Limited)
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 263
Thanks: 640
Thanked 69 Times in 49 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
It's probably possible but you should ask on a datsun forum for more support. Would be a pretty expensive build too. A lot of the manual transmissions (non motor) go for around 5k+ alone.
jbsali is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jbsali For This Useful Post:
Howaitoguru (01-23-2020)
Old 01-23-2020, 10:21 PM   #3
Howaitoguru
Senior Member
 
Howaitoguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: GA
Posts: 283
Thanks: 113
Thanked 95 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbsali View Post
It's probably possible but you should ask on a datsun forum for more support. Would be a pretty expensive build too. A lot of the manual transmissions (non motor) go for around 5k+ alone.


I figured it’d be pricey because those trucks are already a unicorn and 2J’s are hard to come by as is. I figure with the truck and all parts it’s probably end up being 40k but it would be the best truck on the street imo. Plus they look so good lowered. They got that muscle car look with a bed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Howaitoguru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 02:06 AM   #4
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,883
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,804 Times in 3,299 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howaitoguru View Post
Does anyone know if this has been done or if it could be done? The Datsun Sunny truck is the only truck I like the look of and a 2JZ would be nasty. I know they did it with the 1200 coupe and I know they’ve K swapped and SR swapped them. Would the engine bay be big enough?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Why do a 2jz? It’s a Datsun after all, and it came with a 1200cc engine, so it wouldn’t need much power. Drop a SR20 or RB in there. There are the RB20DET and the RB25DET on top of the famous RB26DETT, but an RB25DET RWD setup is plenty, if it will even fit. This guy says the SR20 barely fit:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-mfmWkoGk[/ame]
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Irace86.2.0 For This Useful Post:
soundman98 (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 07:59 AM   #5
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
Why do a 2jz? It’s a Datsun after all, and it came with a 1200cc engine, so it wouldn’t need much power. Drop a SR20 or RB in there. There are the RB20DET and the RB25DET on top of the famous RB26DETT, but an RB25DET RWD setup is plenty, if it will even fit. This guy says the SR20 barely fit:

Come on dude. The only engine to use would be a Gallo 12. I think the 24 would be too much.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
soundman98 (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 10:41 AM   #6
Howaitoguru
Senior Member
 
Howaitoguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: GA
Posts: 283
Thanks: 113
Thanked 95 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
Why do a 2jz? It’s a Datsun after all, and it came with a 1200cc engine, so it wouldn’t need much power. Drop a SR20 or RB in there. There are the RB20DET and the RB25DET on top of the famous RB26DETT, but an RB25DET RWD setup is plenty, if it will even fit. This guy says the SR20 barely fit:



I could always be super disrespectful and LS swap it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Howaitoguru is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Howaitoguru For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 10:46 AM   #7
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,811
Thanks: 38,817
Thanked 24,936 Times in 11,375 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howaitoguru View Post
I could always be super disrespectful and LS swap it.
LS Swap is always the answer, unless the answer is Miata, but even then, LS Swap is better.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 11:06 AM   #8
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howaitoguru View Post
I could always be super disrespectful and LS swap it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As a one time owner of one of these trucks I would say your best bet would be to pick a whole chassis and drop the body on it. You would need to change literally everything under the truck to deal with any form of engine swap. The steering, suspension tranny and rear end could barely stand up to the stock 90HP. The frame and underbody would twist like a pretzel the first time you revved it out with an LS or 2JZ. If you could even manage to cut enough away to put a 2JZ in there in the first place.
Be a very expensive and tricky project to end up with a $20K car at the end of it.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 11:08 AM   #9
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,145
Thanks: 18,142
Thanked 16,305 Times in 7,369 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howaitoguru View Post
I could always be super disrespectful and LS swap it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Who cares?

If it's yours, do what you want with it.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (01-27-2020), soundman98 (01-27-2020), Tcoat (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 11:30 AM   #10
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG View Post
Who cares?

If it's yours, do what you want with it.
The GM police will hunt him down and lock him up.


__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
Howaitoguru (01-27-2020), NoHaveMSG (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 12:19 PM   #11
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,883
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,804 Times in 3,299 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howaitoguru View Post
I could always be super disrespectful and LS swap it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I wasn’t thinking disrespectful, as much as, unnecessary and overkill. There is no need to go with a 2JZ, or for that matter, a LS when the vehicle only weighs 1800lbs. As @Tcoat said, you would almost need a whole new chassis to manage the power. A 300whp build would have a power to weight of a 600whp Mustang, so a SR20 or RB25 is more than capable, and it keeps the engine and chassis under the same manufacturer.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 12:28 PM   #12
Howaitoguru
Senior Member
 
Howaitoguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: GA
Posts: 283
Thanks: 113
Thanked 95 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
I wasn’t thinking disrespectful, as much as, unnecessary and overkill. There is no need to go with a 2JZ, or for that matter, a LS when the vehicle only weighs 1800lbs. As @Tcoat said, you would almost need a whole new chassis to manage the power. A 300whp build would have a power to weight of a 600whp Mustang, so a SR20 or RB25 is more than capable, and it keeps the engine and chassis under the same manufacturer.


I get what you’re saying. But still it would just be something different. I mean what would you do besides poop your pants if a Datsun Sunny Truck puller up next to you sounding like a nasty straight piped V8 or a dirty swirly 2JZ? I’d definitely be pooping, peeing, and puking because that would be super sick.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Howaitoguru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2020, 01:14 PM   #13
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
If I saw a proper set up on the strip I would be impressed they managed to get it done.
If I saw a slammed, over tired, nosy as fuck, one on the street I would laugh my ass off because there is no way they could put that power to the ground and it is all just bullshit show for the flat brimmed, vaping, face tattooed crowd.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (01-27-2020), Howaitoguru (01-27-2020), NoHaveMSG (01-27-2020), soundman98 (01-27-2020)
Old 01-27-2020, 01:15 PM   #14
Howaitoguru
Senior Member
 
Howaitoguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: GA
Posts: 283
Thanks: 113
Thanked 95 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
If I saw a proper set up on the strip I would be impressed they managed to get it done.
If I saw a slammed, over tired, nosy as fuck, one on the street I would laugh my ass off because there is no way they could put that power to the ground and it is all just bullshit show for the flat brimmed, vaping, face tattooed crowd.


Okay boomer


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Howaitoguru is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1979 datsun 280zx sosick Cars for Sale/Trade 4 12-16-2014 08:21 PM
71 Datsun 510/Trade for WRX or STi Northen CA Brinks Cars for Sale/Trade 9 09-03-2014 04:35 PM
Datsun Returns travace Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 17 10-02-2012 12:35 PM
Return of Datsun! Mr.Jay Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 65 03-28-2012 05:35 PM
Requesting Color Scheme help on Datsun Giccin Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 37 05-13-2011 03:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.