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Old 02-19-2020, 03:03 PM   #29
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Two things, Tcoat, love the first vid of shifting. That was how we were thought on a four speed while racing as your hand position helped get the right gear. Not so good with a six speed.
Any time your are pushing the gear lever against resistance going into a gear you are wearing the syncros. Getting a rev match will reduce wear. It does not apply to racing as most parts are wear items and expected to be replaced.


Side note: Complaining about stiff shifting while cold is like saying your steak is tough while eating it frozen.
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Two things, Tcoat, love the first vid of shifting. That was how we were thought on a four speed while racing as your hand position helped get the right gear. Not so good with a six speed.
Any time your are pushing the gear lever against resistance going into a gear you are wearing the syncros. Getting a rev match will reduce wear. It does not apply to racing as most parts are wear items and expected to be replaced.


Side note: Complaining about stiff shifting while cold is like saying your steak is tough while eating it frozen.
Yes the rev match is another topic all on it's own I was really just talking about the top two issues I have seen. A 6 speed requires some extra hand movements but the principal remains the same. The only vehicle I ever drove that does not use some variation of the two finger open palm method was the old non syncroed army jeeps and trucks. Those sometimes took all the grip strength you had to shift.
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Early 2 1/2 ton dump going up a hill with a load of gravel!!! Do not miss the shift or you start all over.
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Early 2 1/2 ton dump going up a hill with a load of gravel!!! Do not miss the shift or you start all over.
One of the vehicles I learned MT on was a 1952 International dump truck my dad had for a while. Too bad that cell phone videos didn't exist back then because 10 year old me trying to clutch and shift must have been hilarious to watch. I can still hear those poor gears screaming.
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One of the vehicles I learned MT on was a 1952 International dump truck my dad had for a while. Too bad that cell phone videos didn't exist back then because 10 year old me trying to clutch and shift must have been hilarious to watch. I can still hear those poor gears screaming.
I got the picture - ol Tcoat about to make a run -


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Welp, this is the type of truck I learnt how to shift a vehicle with rubber tires.

1941 Ford 2 ton truck, loaded with hay, going across a rough hay field made for some "interesting" shifts from this kid -


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So is this a thing with this tranny? I thought this was a similar Aisin tranny to the STI’s Aisin, just slightly less robust. Is 2nd gear grind a common occurrence?
Are they like that new or is it a degradation over time as the synchros wear?
The times I’ve driven (mostly brand new) BRZs, I haven’t experienced any grind at all.
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I think it's a PEBCAC issue.
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With my FR-S the 1-2 shift is the one I have to be extra careful about. Going into 1st can also be difficult. Once the car/transmission is warmed up most of those quirks go away. Many times going into 2nd I can feel the synchros through the shifter. Like actually feel them spinning. This car really connects you to the driving experience.


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So is this a thing with this tranny? I thought this was a similar Aisin tranny to the STIís Aisin, just slightly less robust. Is 2nd gear grind a common occurrence?
Are they like that new or is it a degradation over time as the synchros wear?
The times Iíve driven (mostly brand new) BRZs, I havenít experienced any grind at all.
It only really happen when it is cold, if you pause too long while shifting or if you are even a bit sloppy in position. It actually bets better as the tranny wears in.
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I think it's a PEBCAC issue.
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Agreed. However, PEBCAC is:
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Make sure to take your foot completely off the throttle between shifts. In normal driving, I find that helps smooth out the shifts, especially 1-2.

For high RPM shifting at the track it's not a problem though, only normal driving.
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