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Old 02-03-2016, 07:47 PM   #15
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If I lived in snow country I would probably buy a truck.


Wait, I have a truck. But its only a two-wheel drive truck. But its a Toyota. So I'm good. And it doesn't snow here. Decisions, son. start making some good ones.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:52 PM   #16
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Yup. You made the wrong choice and now you hate yourself. JK.

But really you just need snow tires because even if you had AWD, it wouldn't matter if you can't put traction to the ground. OR you really wished you have bought a WRX.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:59 PM   #17
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You'll be fine with the FRS.

Probably.

Worst case, drive it around for a year, make payments and sell it/trade it in. A year of keeping on top of finances will go a long way for credit scores. Plus, who knows, maybe you'll fall in love with the car.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:02 PM   #18
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If I lived in snow country I would probably buy a truck.


Wait, I have a truck. But its only a two-wheel drive truck. But its a Toyota. So I'm good. And it doesn't snow here. Decisions, son. start making some good ones.
You really know nothing about snow driving. Trucks are JUNK in the snow, especially compared to FWD cars and AWD cars.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:05 PM   #19
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Fuck! I read that right the first time too, but forgot to put the "New" in New England.
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Fuck! I read that right the first time too, but forgot to put the "New" in New England.
I don't think there is a straight country road anyplace in that area. Prime FRS territory.
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Why does everyone seem to think snow = AWD?

AWD doesn't help you stop. AWD gives you a false sense of confidence.

Get good winter rubber and enjoy the snow. I did that a lot when I had my IS300.

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Old 02-04-2016, 05:04 AM   #22
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Why does everyone seem to think snow = AWD?

AWD doesn't help you stop. AWD gives you a false sense of confidence.

Get good winter rubber and enjoy the snow. I did that a lot when I had my IS300.

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Yes, but AWD definitely helps you go in the snow. It also isn't prone to oversteering in corners in the snow.

You're not wrong about the stopping though. That's purely on having good snow tires.
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:44 AM   #23
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ouch, are you paying around $400/mth for that? well, at this point you already purchased the car so you really only have two options:

- keep the car and continue to make payments without being late, and itll help improve your credit score.
- sell the car and try to recoup as much of the purchase price (plus all fees/taxes, etc. that you paid and got baked into the total loan amount) and then pay off the remaining balance if possible
or if the above isn't possible because you dont have cash to pay off the balance after selling, you trade the car in for a cheaper car but with the rollover of the extra depreciation, you'll probably end up paying almost the same amount for a lesser car anyway so might as well keep the frs.
for other reasons i was looking to trade my frs last year. extactly as you stated, it would put me in a lesser vehicle but paying the same amount i'd be paying for the frs. i said eff it. just keep the scion and pay it off. at least i'd have an frs when all said and done and not some econobox with a slushbox.

the only trade i was really pushing for was for a first year lexus ct200h as i would be retaining lots of value with that car because it was originally a lot more expensive when new and luxurious. the numbers still didn't work right so here i am still driving the frs. no regrets though. just a changing lifestyle which will require me to get a larger vehicle (planning for children). either way, i'd be losing my shirt with the frs so it stays indefinitely. yes, i will be hauling babies with it too. the passenger seat will be removed.
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Yes, but AWD definitely helps you go in the snow. It also isn't prone to oversteering in corners in the snow.

You're not wrong about the stopping though. That's purely on having good snow tires.
AWD with winter tires can be better than RWD in deep snow yes.
AWD in light snow or ice really has no advantage over RWD.
AWD without snow tires is worse that RWD with them in all conditions (this is proven).
All season tires are not winter tires even on AWD.
Cars are not prone to oversteer in the winter the drivers are. Smooth inputs and gentle throttle control will make your RWD just as manageable as any AWD.
The mythos that RWD is hard to handle in the snow comes from people that think they are something weird and wonderful and not the way that cars were propelled for 60 years before FWD/AWD came along.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:54 AM   #25
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Alright guys,
for some reason, the passed couple of days I've been regretting purchasing my FRS.



Here's my back story:
I'm 24 years old, and drove a 2001 Dodge Intrepid from the time I was 19 up until August 2015. My engine shit the bed, and I wasn't in the best financial situation, so I had to wait and save for a car. Last year, I went through some shitty decisions that affected my credit score (dropped to a womping 550). Last month I decided for ha, ha's to go to my local Toyota dealership and see what was there. Before I knew it I was approved for a loan for an FRS ($17k, with 17k miles). They had to search long and far to find a lender willing to accept me because of my score. I applied to my credit union only to get denied, as well.

Anyway, I'm starting to regret getting the FRS because
1. I live in New England and AWD would've been nice


Not sure why but it's really eating at me. Sorta wished I had gotten a WRX, but then again a WRX with 17k miles would come with a $23k plus price tag. If I spent $17k on a WRX it would probably have close to 80k miles.
Well what were your reasons for buying an FR-S in the first place? It's got some definite advantages over a WRX (I used to have an STI myself), but if those aren't things you appreciate then you probably bought the wrong car.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:56 AM   #26
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I live in Quincy area and survived last years shit show no problem with a nice set of snow tires. Snow banks were the only problem but I think they were so high only mac trucks could see over them.
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Trust me...you will love your car in the summer and will not regret your decision. Just get some winter tires and throw some salt bags in the trunk and you will be good for the winter.
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I am just going to add another vote for winter tires. I love driving in the winter
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