New 200TW tire - Hoosier TrackAttack Pro

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Tyre Reviews ran this tire against the R7 and Hoosier medium racing slick and had only good things to say. He promised a 200TW test with the TrackAttack Pro coming soon. Just half a second behind the R7 on a BMW M4 GT4 on a 1:05 track (times in the 9:31 mark in the video).

Twin friendly sizes are coming (225/45R17 and 245/40R17 in Q4, but 255/40R17 only in Q3 next year). Would be interesting to see the price (from the sizes available in TireRack, it is slightly more expensive than the RE-71RS).

Edit: on the Hoosier site they're listed as $257 for 225/45R17, so about on par with A052 and RE-71RS. Would be very interesting to see how they wear and how well they perform over a 20-30 minute session.

[Muskoka800]

May simply be an Extreme Contact Force with A052ish tread. Perhaps a stickier compound. It even has the Forces checkered flag pattern on the sidewall. I believe Continental owns Hoosier.

[cmiovino]

I know these aren't technically legal for SCCA solo yet due to the tread depth, but IIRC the A052 wasn't at the beginning either. It would be an easy change to increase the tread depth to sell more tires. We shall see.

Either way, I'm also curious to see how they stack up even as they are to an A052/RE71RS.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by cmiovino

I know these aren't technically legal for SCCA solo yet due to the tread depth, but IIRC the A052 wasn't at the beginning either. It would be an easy change to increase the tread depth to sell more tires. We shall see.

Either way, I'm also curious to see how they stack up even as they are to an A052/RE71RS.

Wouldn't be that easy. Do you know how tire molds are made?

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Muskoka800

May simply be an Extreme Contact Force with A052ish tread. Perhaps a stickier compound. It even has the Forces checkered flag pattern on the sidewall. I believe Continental owns Hoosier.

I was wondering same thing when I saw it.

[RToyo86]

They're quite expensive, more than A052s. likely $500+ a tire in 255/40R17 in monopoly money.

[RedReplicant]

That's not what the pricing I have says for the unreleased sizes, it is between the RE71RS and the Yok. With NASA discount I see $258 for 245/40/17.

My guess is it'll be faster than the RE71RS/A052 and it will wear faster than an R7, it's not an ECF rebadge. I hope it gets buried by NASA classing.

[RToyo86]

What is retail cost?

With Canadian conversion some tires here are awful. GT radial sx2 are same price as RS4s in 245/40r17. I paid around $220 a tire for 215/45r17 RS4s.

[RedReplicant]

$280 full boat in 245/40/17

[strat61caster]

Definitely targeting the Pilot Sport Cup 2 with the performance pricing and initial size release, which is nice because I think it’s been awhile since hpde/TT got a good streetable tire that doesn’t need to be babied, CRS and V730 but for setting a lap time better off with an re71rs or a052

I’ve seen people try r7 and ECF at autox, I don’t think this will make much of an impact there but some generous people will likely post their results soon

I’ve been digging what conti has put out the last few years, hohos have always been fun, might pick up a set later next year if I am headed to the track and don’t have a beater tire lined up.

[RedReplicant]

Got around to checking the GRM forums, early thoughts per Hollis

It's the morning after, and here are some summary thoughts after spending a day with the tires on track, and an evening chatting up Hoosier's lead development engineer for the project

TrackAttack Pro is basically as much R7 performance as possible while still being a legitimate streetable tire. Not just DOT road legal technically like the R7, but something that provides all of the heat tolerance, puncture resistance, and even a modicum of wet performance to match those of tires like the Cup2R, Trofeo R and Supercar 3R. The latter all being tires with OE fitments, meeting the highest levels of suitability/safety for street use.

Is it an R7 with grooves? No. It's a completely new design, developed in the US at Hoosier's race tire facility, but borrowing from Continental's worldwide technology base. The latest materials and construction techniques are employed to minimize any performance loss due to street-use needs.

Does it perform like an R7? For the most part, yes.

Is it faster than all the existing Super 200's? Yes, and consistently so.

By how much? Stay tuned...we have test tires arriving next week for the full GRM treatment.

[Breezio]

Originally Posted by RedReplicant

... it's not an ECF rebadge.

That's what Racecomp was saying as well.
More like a super 200, not an endurance tire.

[NoHaveMSG]

If it’s not a melty one and done super 200 and lasts at least 6 days I would be on board. I’m over the current 200tw tire meta, I want more meaningful laps.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

If it’s not a melty one and done super 200 and lasts at least 6 days I would be on board. I’m over the current 200tw tire meta, I want more meaningful laps.

Me and two frenz ran 255 A052s on an S2000 for two 3-hour endurance races earlier this year. I set the fastest lap of the event on the 100th lap on day one. They lasted the event no prob! I usually get 6 "normal" track days (45 minutes to an hour of track time per day) out of A052s on the BRZ and looks like I'll get about that on the MX-5 as well, though I expected more life on much lighter-weight car...

Very curious where this new Hoosier lands as far as lap times and tire life, and most importantly for me, wet grip...