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10-27-2022, 06:28 PM | #29 | |
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Just more fluid capacity would be nice..
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10-27-2022, 07:11 PM | #30 | |
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For those who wants a more cost-effective solution, there are oil pan baffles existing in the market for ~$150-200. I'd love to see if the increased oil capacity can keep the oil temp in check for a little longer, so I can avoid going with an external oil cooler. Pre-order soon? |
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I would love if the price is below 400. |
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If the pan is proved to solve the problems (e.g. oil pressure drops under lateral Gs) I think $400-$600 is fair. For the references, the STI oil pan with baffle is around $328 ($450 after DHL shipping)s under current currency exchange rate (but this part is unobtainable for now). The Syms FA24 oil pan with baffle is $245 USD ($350 after shipping). We don't know if they really work though.
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Just an update for those following...
We're going to be starting preliminary bench testing soon for 5 different products. - High Flow Oil Pickup: FA24. This is going to be more for the adventurous tinkerer or for those that have the engine out for rebuild or upgrades. - Oil Pickup Pre-Filter: This addresses the concern with shedding silicone obstructing oil flow in the OEM oil pickup. Oddly enough, this may also address an interesting observation we've recently made; oil funneling. As oil drains back from the left head it causes swirl in the lower pan that reduces the oil level in the center near the pickup. Normally, not an issue, but under severe side loads if the oil drops enough, the funneling can cause premature starvation. This pre-filter should disrupt that rotational flow. We shall see! Oil Pan Spacer: Increases OEM capacity to 6 quarts, but more specifically it increases oil level at the pickup (lower pan). It also provides a small barrier that should reduce slosh to the sides and into the timing cover. Oil Baffle: Of course, the goal here is to address the pressure drops seen on track. From preliminary bench testing we've made some interesting observations that make me scratch my head as to why the current offerings look the way they do. Ours will look quite different, but maybe that will evolve through testing. It's a part that requires pretty vigorous testing. High Performance Oil Pan: Higher capacity, proper baffles, CC venting, additional ports for sensors, and drain options. As usual, comments, questions, or concerns, are welcome. . |
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Have you mounted the engine fitted with a spacer into a car yet?
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What will the " high capacity pan" have for capacity? Do you have any testing lined up potentially to see what common manifolds / headers it clears? I'm in, if it can clear my JDL turbo manifold
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We've laser scanned all the parts involved, so fitment should go smoothly on car, but you truly never know until you put them on. Quote:
I really hate to speculate on the pan release, but likely summer/fall. Quote:
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I'd like to see at least 6 quarts. From experience, we know the more oil the better. It drops engine oil temps, improves supply stability under severe lateral loads, and the oil condition is improved over time (more oil doing less work). It's always a balancing act. More oil does you no good if it's not controlled and you have starvation. So, you may trade some capacity for oil control features. On the headers, it's tough to make everyone happy. Typically, we start with a design based around OEM components on the engine, including OEM header with heat shields. For the most part this works with most mainstream headers. If one of the very popular headers does not fit, we'll typically make some adjustments to accommodate it. Again, it's a balancing act. . |
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I wholly respect the position you're in as an aftermarket manufacturer. Please let me know if there's anything I can do, I'm sure you have several members here who are ready to either test fit or send things to you. Whether or not it's worth the effort for you all or actually helpful isn't something I could know. My car will be on jack stands for the next 4-5 months (gen 1 early 2013 MY though) and I'm not opposed to being under the car measuring things. Just thankful you're here at all trying to provide support to our little niche of the world
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I saw the oil pickup prefilter video on YouTube. Beta testing in January?
The spacer would be interesting if it was machined for a captured o-ring on both sides to eliminate the need for rtv. |
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Looking forward to the oil pan as long as it is compatible with JDL catted UEL headers!
When released, will the “upper echelon” pan incorporate or come with features that render the pre-filter and baffle redundant? Or will those items still add meaningful improvement when used with the pan? |
12-27-2022, 01:14 AM | #42 |
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definitely interested in the oil pan once it's ready. im assuming itll have a built-in baffle?
Will the oil pan also have increased oil capacity? |
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