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As you hinted, the used value of any car (Tesla, GM, whatever) can't really be determined by the price a new car dealer would sell it for on their used lot. You need to look a private sales, and independent lot sales for what is closer to market value, in my opinion.
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Which is still difficult with tesla thanks to things like this: https://jalopnik.com/tesla-remotely-...mer-1841472617
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I've asked this before but haven't found an answer, does Tesla have an EOL (End of Life) statement on their car's software? For example, will they support it forever, or do they reserve the right, at some point 10, 15, 50 years down the road to shut the car down because they no longer can support the software or the hardware? It is very obvious from their actions that Tesla does not believe you own your car, but you have a use license from them and they retain control of the vehicle and its features.
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I think Tesla should or may have a way to determine if a system is paid for or if it is a trial feature. Maybe a receipt or sales sticker would work or some type of Tesla VIN lookup. A quick call to Tesla would work too. Sounds like someone either tried to defraud someone else or someone didn’t do their due diligence or both. I’m more interested in the EOL/EOS that Dadhawk has brought up than I am concerned about OTA updates. With that said, I think all cars should be able to operate in a limp mode or basic mode or be able to revert back to an old, working software version. If I had a Twitter I would ask Elon Musk directly. It is worth mentioning that this is limited to Tesla and a few other brands. Has BMW rolled their version of OTA updates yet? EVs don’t require this, nor is it limited to EVs.
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just saw the new Mirai in person at Longo Toyota. had to confirm some suspicions about the car...
Car overall is pretty good for the price I think. $50k is the XLE model, $66k for Limited (which is slightly overpriced for me). But the car's price breakdown becomes the following:
The car ends up being about ~$35k out the door, minus another $4500 in CA rebate, plus another $8k federal tax credit. Factoring in the cost of the fuel card (which translates to about 70k miles of driving) and the car basically will be about $15000 to buy. Tempting. |
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The 0-60 of 9.2 seconds kills it for me, even if everything else aligned. Maybe you should wait three years, and you could buy one for $5k or less.
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I like the Nio design language infinitely more than Tesla's, and they do seem to have thought through alternative battery charging/swapping scenarios a little further. In practice, as mentioned in the video, the battery swapping has to be expensive to maintain, and I would want to see the lease agreement around swapped batteries (to do the swap I believe you have to participate in their lease agreement which is about $150 US).
Have they started selling in the US, or announced when they will? Their nio.com website is relatively useless, containing mostly marketing blurbs and stock photos of beautiful people doing beautiful things.
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