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gravitylover · 10-29-2020, 08:09 AM

My wife made it through a 3,000 mile road trip to Key West in my car last February without getting nauseous at all. She got nervous a few times but she never bugged out like she does around home where everything is all twisty and hilly and too hard for me not to have fun. Me, I'm the worst passenger ever though and can't handle anything other than smooth and gentle, I sit there holding onto whatever handle I can reach and have to be able to see out the windshield at all times so can't sit in the back seat.

Baldeagle · 10-29-2020, 08:31 AM

Alone = F1 driver. With passengers = limo driver.

As the driver, we have a steering wheel in our hands. That steering wheel adds tremendous support to our bodies. Passengers don’t have that extra support. Forces that feel small and unnoticeable to us can easily toss a passenger around in their seat (front/back and left/right). If your goal is to drive like a limo-driver, you must greatly reduce the amount force you feel on your body to keep your passenger comfortable. It may feel close to zero.

gen3v8 · 10-29-2020, 12:07 PM

I had my head down fiddling with a phone app in the passenger seat. Now that made me woozy

Ernest72 · 10-29-2020, 12:29 PM

This very common. Like others have said you need to drive like a grandma. What’s normal to me is definitely not to my family.

pallen · 10-29-2020, 10:36 PM

It's one thing when you have your hands on the wheel making the turn. It's another for someone else to do it and you're being slung around. I don't think I would want to be my passenger the way I drive alone. When my wife is in the car, I smooth things out as much as possible. She doesn't complain as much in the 86 as she did in the old Mazdaspeed3, so there's that.

HaXx · 10-29-2020, 11:45 PM

You know I actually drive slower in the 86 than I do in other cars. I think it's because the 86 feels like it's going so much faster than it is, causing passengers to be anxious and get motion sickness. Regardless if the driver is operating normally. I didnt get the sense at all that the OP is driving faster than is responsible for a public road. Hop in a lambo and 130 feels glacial, boring.

dpfarr · 10-30-2020, 12:22 AM

One thing I love about this car is the interior door handle. If you’ve been passenger in track it’s pretty awesome. I tried communicating that to passengers but alas, I only have fun by myself.

ToySub1946 · 10-30-2020, 02:18 AM

I've known people who actually drive with things sitting on their dashboard.

Good luck with that in any of MY cars, ever, and I'm almost 74 yo.

Both curves and turns are designed for accelerating, NOT braking.

Instruct any passengers to always look out the windshield as though they are actually driving the vehicle...if this fails to work...simply kick em out of the car at the next stop.

gen3v8 · 10-30-2020, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

I've known people who actually drive with things sitting on their dashboard.

Good luck with that in any of MY cars, ever, and I'm almost 74 yo.

Both curves and turns are designed for accelerating, NOT braking.

Instruct any passengers to always look out the windshield as though they are actually driving the vehicle...if this fails to work...simply kick em out of the car at the next stop.

I like your style! So Get In Sit Down and Shut Up

FR-S2GT86 · 10-30-2020, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gen3v8

I like your style! So Get In Sit Down and Shut Up

Get in, sit down, shut up, hold on, and don't puke!

Baldeagle · 10-30-2020, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

I've known people who actually drive with things sitting on their dashboard.

Good luck with that in any of MY cars, ever, and I'm almost 74 yo.

Both curves and turns are designed for accelerating, NOT braking.

Instruct any passengers to always look out the windshield as though they are actually driving the vehicle...if this fails to work...simply kick em out of the car at the next stop.

Agreed. Braking in a corner pulls a passenger's back away from the seat and simultaneously pushes their torso sideways. That's not good for people who suffer from motion sickness. But accelerating through a corner, even light acceleration, pushes a passenger's back into their seat and stabilizes them.

If I may add, as someone who suffers from motion sickness, I prefer sport cars with tight suspensions, like one of the twins. Its soft cars like a Blubbery-Buick that can be bad for me.

gravitylover · 10-30-2020, 10:32 AM

For me as a passenger anything other than smooth moves with the steering wheel make me uncomfortable. I can handle throttle and brake moves as long as they're not jerky and are similar to what I would do.

Tokay444 · 10-30-2020, 12:40 PM

I made a guy puke in a borrowed helmet, and made my 16 year old's period come two days early.

Jordanwolf · 10-30-2020, 12:59 PM

I drive for my passengers when I have them. I drive for the people around me, when there are people around me.

I may be daft, but it seems almost like some are bragging about being a shitty driver.

10-29-2020, 08:09 AM	#29
gravitylover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT White Location: SE NY Posts: 1,503 Thanks: 1,218 Thanked 669 Times in 474 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My wife made it through a 3,000 mile road trip to Key West in my car last February without getting nauseous at all. She got nervous a few times but she never bugged out like she does around home where everything is all twisty and hilly and too hard for me not to have fun. Me, I'm the worst passenger ever though and can't handle anything other than smooth and gentle, I sit there holding onto whatever handle I can reach and have to be able to see out the windshield at all times so can't sit in the back seat. __________________

10-29-2020, 11:45 PM	#34
HaXx Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Drives: jrsc_brz Location: boston Posts: 966 Thanks: 726 Thanked 675 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You know I actually drive slower in the 86 than I do in other cars. I think it's because the 86 feels like it's going so much faster than it is, causing passengers to be anxious and get motion sickness. Regardless if the driver is operating normally. I didnt get the sense at all that the OP is driving faster than is responsible for a public road. Hop in a lambo and 130 feels glacial, boring. __________________ JACKSON RACING l RALLYBACKER l FORGESTAR l FORTUNE AUTO l INVIDIA

10-30-2020, 02:18 AM	#36
ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I've known people who actually drive with things sitting on their dashboard. Good luck with that in any of MY cars, ever, and I'm almost 74 yo. Both curves and turns are designed for accelerating, NOT braking. Instruct any passengers to always look out the windshield as though they are actually driving the vehicle...if this fails to work...simply kick em out of the car at the next stop. Last edited by ToySub1946; 10-30-2020 at 02:35 AM.

10-30-2020, 10:32 AM	#40
gravitylover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT White Location: SE NY Posts: 1,503 Thanks: 1,218 Thanked 669 Times in 474 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	For me as a passenger anything other than smooth moves with the steering wheel make me uncomfortable. I can handle throttle and brake moves as long as they're not jerky and are similar to what I would do. __________________

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10-29-2020, 08:31 AM	#30
Baldeagle Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: VW GLI 6MT Location: New Jersey Posts: 110 Thanks: 61 Thanked 88 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alone = F1 driver. With passengers = limo driver. As the driver, we have a steering wheel in our hands. That steering wheel adds tremendous support to our bodies. Passengers don’t have that extra support. Forces that feel small and unnoticeable to us can easily toss a passenger around in their seat (front/back and left/right). If your goal is to drive like a limo-driver, you must greatly reduce the amount force you feel on your body to keep your passenger comfortable. It may feel close to zero.

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10-29-2020, 10:36 PM	#33
pallen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 261 Thanks: 200 Thanked 184 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's one thing when you have your hands on the wheel making the turn. It's another for someone else to do it and you're being slung around. I don't think I would want to be my passenger the way I drive alone. When my wife is in the car, I smooth things out as much as possible. She doesn't complain as much in the 86 as she did in the old Mazdaspeed3, so there's that.

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dpfarr Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: BRZ ts Location: SACRAMENTO Posts: 752 Thanks: 410 Thanked 787 Times in 301 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	One thing I love about this car is the interior door handle. If you’ve been passenger in track it’s pretty awesome. I tried communicating that to passengers but alas, I only have fun by myself.

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