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05-31-2020, 05:47 AM | #15 | |
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This is what it sounds like. Adding headers will make the car loud. |
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Plenty have been asking for that set up in bold lol Ah well since you're going with the TRD aero, HKS might be your best choice for a full set up. They have their R-Spec set up which is their header and front pipe, then you can get their Legamax Sport with the quad tips. While the kit doesn't come with an overpipe, it's rather useless to replace. However, HKS does offer one now.
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Thanks for the feedbacks, everyone. I haven't thought about axlebacks yet in case I go header... and for the extra weight savings over the stock exhaust. I gotta say though, the Nameless does sound nice. Only other one I heard that I would've considered was the STi muffler but that thing is stupidly expensive; it cost more than almost every high-end JDM catback.
I have come to the conclusion that the only way I can decide whether I like the sound is to hear it in person. The same exhaust sounds just different enough from two different clips depending on equipment, environment, video quality, distance, weather, even how long it has been installed and whether someone farted in the same direction and distorted the sound. And then there is the difference between listening on my headphones vs speakers. With all that being said, I'm just gonna have to jump on one when the time comes and hope the sound profile is what I wanted it to be. |
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Yep, paralysis by analysis can be a real thing when it comes to picking an exhaust system -
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2) Blitz is not really readily available in US because the former importer (FRSport) basically imploded. Ask me how I know... but you can get it from a lot of other places, anyone that buys wholesale from Options Auto Salon. 3) See #1 above 4) the sound for Authorize R is the same as others above. If anything, Authorize R is the right balance between STi sport muffer and factory OEM. Nur-Spec VS/VSR is too close to stock and will rattle if you add any catless straight front pipe or aggressive header to this. As for header and other component discussion, you should consider it this way: large resonators or large OEM-sized catalytic converters will yield the best/quietest sound, allowing you to use whatever exhaust you want. So if you went with the Apex'i setup, you can run whatever exhaust after that and you will end up with only the sound of the exhaust. Here's the Apexi header setup with stock exhaust: Here's the same header with the exhaust you want: Like I said a long time ago, if I spent this much money on a header/catback setup and be so quiet, I'd want my money back. Worth noting is the Nur-Spec VS/VSR has a slight in-cabin rattle under load with aftermarket headers. It's only apparent if you fold down the rear seats and have quiet tires at highway speeds but this also can be a one-off problem with what I had on my car. |
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As for the header to front pipe section, i'm leaning towards the apexi system for the bigger resonator and for their design that locates the second sensor after their high flow cats. Previous owners with this system has shared with me that this design allowed them to not get the CEL even without flashing their ECU which will be handy if I have to take my car into the dealership for maintenance I can simply flash the ecu back to stock and no CEL will pop up. Spoke with the service manager at the dealership I will be frequenting and he said they don't have a problem with working on modified cars and have serviced vehicles with aftermarket superchargers on them. He just says as long as the modification doesn't contribute to any problems related to potential warranty work it will be covered under warranty. Quote:
Header for torque dip, quad tip catback mainly cosmetic to complement the TRD rear bumper. Additionally our local authorities recently passed this very obscure and crappy legislation that allows local law enforcement tickets for exhaust sounds they subjectively find loud and "disruptive" (motorcycles have an actual decibel number they must remain under however cars are all at the cop's discretion) which is another reason I rather not draw attention to myself with loud obnoxious exhaust noises. The second rule is against muffler tip size we can now get ticketed if our exhaust tip diameter exceeds the diameter of our main exhaust piping (which is silly because i'm pretty sure the kouki oem exhaust tips are larger than the stock piping diameter!) |
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Zero guarantees of no CEL with any aftermarket header system. |
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I do fully agree with keeping the noise down. Not just for lack of attention by law enforcement, but because I don't need to have people on the road thinking I'm looking for trouble.
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Doesn't the placement of the second sensor behind the front pipe catalyzer help achieve this too though? AFAIK apexi seems to be the only company that even bothered to do this as all the other manufacturers just tell u to do a tune which also flashes away the CEL.
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Magnaflow also has a great sound. I have an axel back exhaust from magnaflow and i love the deep aggressive sound with a bit of subí rumble.
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the problem with aftermarket HFC is that it sometimes does not have cell density to pass the ECU sensor check. it may pass a tailpipe but not the sensor. |
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There isn't enough info/pictures on the Fujitsu EPU's header to high flow cat to see if it has a bung after the high flow cat, but HKS definitely does not have one as the pictures show both bungs right before the overpipe. |
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saltywetman: most aftermarket catted headers offer such "possibility", so do misc. O2 sensor spacers and such too .. problem being, none of them provide sure way for cat readiness CEL to never pop up, just reduced chance/longer mileage for it to happen.
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if you don't want a CEL, get a tune to get rid of it. If you get a header and no tune, what's the point? so do it right and get both at the same time so you get the maximum benefit out of the header. otherwise, you're just throwing money away on things that make your car feel faster. |
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