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Old 11-13-2013, 03:20 PM   #1
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New To FI i have a few questions.

Hi, i am thinking about Supercharging my car in a few years (2-4 probably), but was curious about a idea i had. From what i understand the more boost/PSI you run the more strain on the car. So i had an idea and since my car is an AT and my DD, i was wondering if the ECU could be set to 2 different settings depending on if the Sport button was engaged or not, to run different PSI levels or something to that effect. For example if sport mode is off, the car would have approx. 200WHP for daily driving, and when sport mode is engaged, the car could have 250+WHP. Would something like this be possible?

I am new to FI and tuning, and I've never had an FI or tuned car before. I only know a bit about both turbo's and superchargers, basically enough to know the difference and prefer the linear power output of a supercharger.

I am currently looking into the Innovate, Jackson Racing, and Vortech kits.


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Not possible that I am aware of. Your best best would be EcuTek and you can change to your 250+ whp map with the cruise control stalk.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:00 PM   #3
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You're basically talking about SI-drive mode that STIs come with. Now, if somehow the CAN bus and electronics from the STI could be integrated into the ECU, then with tuning you could have actual boost select and even throttle mapping changes (when COBB writes their OTS tunes for the AP, they change SI Drive into a boost select and keep throttle mapping at it's most aggressive for all modes).

But that's the kind of thing that'd be needed. Also, I wouldn't be too worried with a super-charger. Unlike a turbo, you're going to be making a set amount of boost. A turbo has the potential to get into boost creep and other potentially bad things, where an SC's boost levels are pretty well fixed by the engine speed.
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Hi, i am thinking about Supercharging my car in a few years (2-4 probably), but was curious about a idea i had. From what i understand the more boost/PSI you run the more strain on the car. So i had an idea and since my car is an AT and my DD, i was wondering if the ECU could be set to 2 different settings depending on if the Sport button was engaged or not, to run different PSI levels or something to that effect. For example if sport mode is off, the car would have approx. 200WHP for daily driving, and when sport mode is engaged, the car could have 250+WHP. Would something like this be possible?

I am new to FI and tuning, and I've never had an FI or tuned car before. I only know a bit about both turbo's and superchargers, basically enough to know the difference and prefer the linear power output of a supercharger.

I am currently looking into the Innovate, Jackson Racing, and Vortech kits.


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it sounds like you want a turbo and an electronic boost controller.
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Hopefully JR makes a SC for AT...
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it sounds like you want a turbo and an electronic boost controller.
That is true he will need more than just EcuTek. He will also need an ECU controlled boost solenoid and some form of wastegate added to all those supercharger systems. He really wants a turbo and not a supercharger.
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Hi, i am thinking about Supercharging my car in a few years (2-4 probably), but was curious about a idea i had. From what i understand the more boost/PSI you run the more strain on the car. So i had an idea and since my car is an AT and my DD, i was wondering if the ECU could be set to 2 different settings depending on if the Sport button was engaged or not, to run different PSI levels or something to that effect. For example if sport mode is off, the car would have approx. 200WHP for daily driving, and when sport mode is engaged, the car could have 250+WHP. Would something like this be possible?

I am new to FI and tuning, and I've never had an FI or tuned car before. I only know a bit about both turbo's and superchargers, basically enough to know the difference and prefer the linear power output of a supercharger.

I am currently looking into the Innovate, Jackson Racing, and Vortech kits.


Thanks for any info and help!

FA20club.com Turbo kit is what you need base number will deff make you happy!!!!!!!
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:47 PM   #8
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pretty much i prefer a SC, but wasn't sure about the boost levels running high all the time so i figured a switch of sorts would make the car more reliable. If running a SC from either of those kits will be fine on its own, then there won't be an issue with not running all the extra's lol, and it sounds like a lot of work and a waste of time to do the sport mode like i was thinking, thanks for the info!

I'm wondering if there would really be to much of a difference between an SC or a Turbo due to all the comments though, i have an AT so the car will just downshift on its own whenever i mash the accelerator, but in manual mode i know there will be a pretty decent difference in the way that the power will be delivered. One linear and the other built up pressure basically at whatever RPM and its pretty much all at once from what i understand.

I'm not looking for a huge amount of HP, like i said, 250WHP would be plenty for what i'd like out of it.
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well as far as numbers go, the FA20Club kit looks pretty nice, cheap price too. That is actually tempting lol, all of the superchargers are about $4,000. so the FA20club is about $500 cheaper, and delivers more HP than the supercharger kits. Any idea's on where it could be installed at?
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well as far as numbers go, the FA20Club kit looks pretty nice, cheap price too. That is actually tempting lol, all of the superchargers are about $4,000. so the FA20club is about $500 cheaper, and delivers more HP than the supercharger kits. Any idea's on where it could be installed at?
It's a bit difficult to find someone to install the kit in California that knows what they're doing, I had the same issues finding a shop. I know ModBargain does some installs and their located in La Habra, CA
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It's a bit difficult to find someone to install the kit in California that knows what they're doing
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Good place too ^ and pretty cool location I might add!
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I've got the Innovate SC on my AT. Car feels great throughout the RPM range and I'm getting about 28-29 MPG if I don't drive it like I stole it. When you put it in manual mode it is definitely a lot more fun, but the MPG goes down as well.

I know @Infamous Performance is working with @DeliciousTuning to do tunes at their shop and has a Mustang dyno on site. Looking at your profile, that may be a bit of a drive.
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