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Old 03-30-2015, 03:30 PM   #1
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Seat belt lock up almost got me killed today

Anyone have an issue trying to peak over your left driver side blind spot to have your seat belt lock up?? Last night I was merging on to a freeway and the ramp merges into a lane quickly. And this freeway is on a hill so you can't see cars coming until you're literally on the lane. So I'm merging and I'm bout to move forward to check my blind spot and the god damn seat belt locks me into my seat. By then it was too late and a mercedes comes out of nowhere honking like a mad man and I'm forced to swerve offroad almost launching off a small cliff into a ravine. Thank god any other drivers or I weren't injured but wtf. Is that normal for a seat belt to lock up for no reason?
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:53 PM   #2
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Move too fast or sharply and they lock up. Pretty common on any modern car and this is exactly what they need to do to protect you.
When leaning forward try to do it in a smooth manner without jerking the belt and all should be fine..
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:57 PM   #3
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This car's side mirrors, if adjusted properly, should not require you to turn to see blind spots to the point where the seatbelt lockup comes into play.

But your belts will lock up if you are 1) at a steep angle, or 2) you move the belt too quickly (akin to a crash). This can be for ANY car you drive, not just this one.

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This car's side mirrors, if adjusted properly, should not require you to turn to see blind spots to the point where the seatbelt lockup comes into play.

But your belts will lock up if you are 1) at a steep angle, or 2) you move the belt too quickly (akin to a crash). This can be for ANY car you drive, not just this one.

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Shit you're right. Just tested this. Thanks guys this info can save lives!
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This car's side mirrors, if adjusted properly, should not require you to turn to see blind spots to the point where the seatbelt lockup comes into play.
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I've heard this posted at least once about every car I've ever owned or driven. The fact of the matter is you should still be checking your blind spots regardless of how properly you've adjusted the mirrors; furthermore, now that more people are on motorcycles, you should always be looking twice. He probably just moved way to suddenly causing the seat belt to lock up which is another matter as you've stated.
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This car's side mirrors, if adjusted properly, should not require you to turn to see blind spots to the point where the seatbelt lockup comes into play.
He was merging onto an interstate, where the ramp is usually at a distance from the travel lane until you're right alongside it. That means cars in the travel lane are in the giant blind spot that exists no matter how you adjust your mirrors.



OP, don't jerk when you look into the giant blind spot that exists no matter how you adjust your mirrors. Just do it smoothly and the belt won't lock up.
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I've heard this posted at least once about every car I've ever owned or driven. The fact of the matter is you should still be checking your blind spots regardless of how properly you've adjusted the mirrors; furthermore, now that more people are on motorcycles, you should always be looking twice. He probably just moved way to suddenly causing the seat belt to lock up which is another matter as you've stated.
Look twice, save a life. I know too many people that have been killed on motorcycles because of people in cars being too lazy to really check their surroundings before pulling out or making lane changes.
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He was merging onto an interstate, where the ramp is usually at a distance from the travel lane until you're right alongside it. That means cars in the travel lane are in the giant blind spot that exists no matter how you adjust your mirrors.

You mean I can't recklessly cut across 2 lanes of traffic without looking over my shoulder first? Damnit! Just suck the fun out of driving why don't you...
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You mean I can't recklessly cut across 2 lanes of traffic without looking over my shoulder first? Damnit! Just suck the fun out of driving why don't you...
That's OK, ...... if you're texting or talking on your cell phone ..... cause you then have an excuse .....


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I'm just trying to figure out why I need a clear view of a car that is two lanes away from me with another car in between acting as a buffer. Also wondering how looking over my shoulder will give me xray vision to see through said car. I guess I'm supposed to look through it's windows to plan my next 3 moves in advance?
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I'm just trying to figure out why I need a clear view of a car that is two lanes away from me with another car in between acting as a buffer. Also wondering how looking over my shoulder will give me xray vision to see through said car. I guess I'm supposed to look through it's windows to plan my next 3 moves in advance?
Well, my take on driving these days, is sort of like playing a game ...... with one player looking at his/her smart phone, texting; another player talking on a cell phone; another player is drunk/on drugs; another one is old and gets the gas & brake mixed up; yet another is young and bullet proof and the last one is asleep ..... and there you are ..... in the middle of them all ...... your move .....


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He was merging onto an interstate, where the ramp is usually at a distance from the travel lane until you're right alongside it. That means cars in the travel lane are in the giant blind spot that exists no matter how you adjust your mirrors.
While I would normally agree, most interstates in CA aren't designed this way.

One exception may be the 110 north of the I-5, which isn't technically an interstate:



Even the 110 (onramps are essentially a stop sign + a drag race up to 55MPH) isn't THAT bad for purposes of blind spot discussions.

Very curious to what section of road OP was on...

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I'm just trying to figure out why I need a clear view of a car that is two lanes away from me with another car in between acting as a buffer. Also wondering how looking over my shoulder will give me xray vision to see through said car. I guess I'm supposed to look through it's windows to plan my next 3 moves in advance?
The diagram is to show what you can see and what you can't, not to assume that there's always a car conveniently located in the next lane to keep you from moving over. If you take the diagram in the context of this thread, it might make more sense.

There are three situations in which this comes into play for me:

When I'm in the right lane on a three-lane freeway and want to take the center lane. Sometimes there will be someone pacing me in the far left lane in the blind spot. If that person tries to take the center lane at the same time I do, a collision could result.

When I'm on an entrance ramp, attempting to merge into traffic. Because the ramp doesn't begin right next to the travel lane, someone in the travel lane could be in the blind spot and suddenly appear in my properly-adjusted mirrors when I'm right alongside him. At that point my options are more limited than if I had seen him before reaching that point in the acceleration lane.

When I'm in the far left travel lane and someone is approaching in an entrance ramp from the left. We have those here, and people tend to just blow right out into traffic without looking. It's bad enough to have them suddenly appear out of the blind spot into my properly-adjusted mirrors, but it's worse when they just blast into my lane with no regard for life or property.

All of these situations require looking over the shoulder rather than relying on properly-adjusted mirrors that still leave a huge fucking cone of blindness out the driver's side of the vehicle. Does that explanation work for you?
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While I would normally agree, most interstates in CA aren't designed this way.
But there is STILL a blind spot in this car, even with properly-adjusted mirrors, that in many circumstances requires looking over the left shoulder to ensure that the way is clear. The better habit is to always look, so that you don't bang into someone the one time you're wrong about whether the mirrors alone were sufficient.
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