The Torquiest Header? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 02:47 PM

Hey guys. Ive been researching headers for years and I suppose I just need some first hand experience. I have the rest sorted, A JDL Dual Resonated FP and a CSG Touring Cat Back is going to go with whatever choice. But Im looking for the highest/flattest torque numbers from a header. Top end Im really not concerned with.

So some choices I have in mind:
Ace CS400
JDL UEL
P&L
FT86 Speedfactory RACE (catless)
Open Flash OFH3 (discontinued??)

Obviously Ill have them tuned, but I cant find Dyno sheets on all of them to compare. Also the header will determine how I tune. If a tablet isnt enough, Id like a full Delicious kit with flex fuel.

Lantanafrs2 · 05-29-2019, 02:55 PM

And here we go.....

BigTuna · 05-29-2019, 03:00 PM

There are many more threads than these as well..

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31555
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127080
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115623
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85008

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigTuna

There are many more threads than these as well..

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31555
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127080
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115623
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85008

I know this has been gone over, and over, and over. Im sort of looking for specific examples. Like, Ive never seen a CS400 dyno sheet. I get it! But other things, like what happened to the OFH3? The one with the OP designed in like ACE.

Then there is the Tomei thats stupid cheap, but is it good enough for the money?
Then theres a JDL EL tuned with a flat torque curve.
I just want extra/smarter eyes to give me a little help.

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 03:26 PM

These are bad numbers from a tuned header, but an example.

RayRay88 · 05-29-2019, 03:36 PM

tobin · 05-29-2019, 03:45 PM

Has anyone had engine failures related to the valve spring recall???

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 03:50 PM

154HP and 135tq from an ACE CS400?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2640680

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 03:52 PM

...better. But testing was done at 54*F, Pretty chilly.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111848

86TOYO2k17 · 05-29-2019, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westen86

Id like a full Delicious kit with flex fuel.

Looks like you already know what to do, if money isn't an issue, Ace DT flex fuel tuner package is the answer to all your prayers. will give you the best of the best in all regards. Just costs a premium if your willing to pay to play.

HaXx · 05-29-2019, 04:10 PM

No delicious, no header, no flex feul. Put all that money toward a JRSC & dyno. Headers are like + or - 5 whp. 5-6 grand u could be boosted with +50% whp. How much it header and tune and all that going to cost and for what 10 hp?

reeves · 05-29-2019, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westen86

Hey guys. Ive been researching headers for years and I suppose I just need some first hand experience. Im looking for the highest/flattest torque numbers from a header. Top end Im really not concerned with.

So some choices I have in mind:
Ace CS400
JDL UEL
P&L
FT86 Speedfactory RACE (catless)
Open Flash OFH3 (discontinued??)

I've driven 86's with the Ace, JDL, and P&L.. can't go wrong with any of them. Unless you're looking to shave as many tenths of a second off your lap time, I wouldn't get so caught up in the "highest" torque numbers.. Those 3 will all give you a flat torque curve if tuned right. Just pick any of them and see which one you can get at the lowest price.

Dyno sheets may have slightly different results, but you can't really 'feel' a difference between a few lb-ft on a flat torque curve. They're all "great" headers that will make a night-n-day driving difference (vs. stock) after you tune it.

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 04:17 PM

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...=111848&page=5

Page 4 (CS400)

Westen86 · 05-29-2019, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaXx

No delicious, no header, no flex feul. Put all that money toward a JRSC & dyno. Headers are like + or - 5 whp. 5-6 grand u could be boosted with +50% whp. How much it header and tune and all that going to cost and for what 10 hp?

No boost for now. Thats a box I dont feel like digging through. BUT... If I did, it would be Jackson Racing or HKS V3.

Also, the headers Im looking at are about 30hp and 25ftlbs. Not much to you boost nerds jumping in increments of 100, but enough for a 2800lb car.

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