I thought this car came with an LSD? - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

OrbitalEllipses · 12-24-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic

Good god another clutch?! I'm still getting used to the first one! What, will there be 4 pedals now? Double heel-toe?!

Clutch...? Are you talking about the second brake pedal?

Manic · 12-24-2013, 01:27 PM

Obvious troll wasn't obvious enough

EddieZ2 · 08-19-2017, 01:06 PM

Real great discussion on differentials. What I want to know is what does everybody use to keep the rear wheels on the ground to help keep from spinning. I'm finding every time I'm pushing it my inside rear wheel is breaking free and spinning. I have great tires and a stock suspension. The front end is tight. Just the rear wants to lift. Not thinking sway bars. Maybe stunt tower brace? Suggestions?

jonboy99 · 08-19-2017, 03:59 PM

Hooker in the trunk?

Andrew025 · 08-19-2017, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1086

Ha, what are you saying 'No' to? bad grammar is no bueno... :/

An is correct.
A isn't.

Somerandom18 · 08-19-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieZ2

Real great discussion on differentials. What I want to know is what does everybody use to keep the rear wheels on the ground to help keep from spinning. I'm finding every time I'm pushing it my inside rear wheel is breaking free and spinning. I have great tires and a stock suspension. The front end is tight. Just the rear wants to lift. Not thinking sway bars. Maybe stunt tower brace? Suggestions?

Remove or get a thinner rear sway bar. Add spare wheel in the trunk. Dead hookers are definitely an option. Not really sure what else. Cinder blocks? Mine is planted and sticks really well even without a spare. But that doesn't help you at all.

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EddieZ2 · 08-19-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Somerandom18

Remove or get a thinner rear sway bar. Add spare wheel in the trunk. Dead hookers are definitely an option. Not really sure what else. Cinder blocks? Mine is planted and sticks really well even without a spare. But that doesn't help you at all.

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Hookers are at a premium these days so I may have to go with cinder blocks. Just kinda strange how ready the rear breaks away.Even tried some super soft tires, still rolling out.

TylerLieberman · 08-19-2017, 08:17 PM

This 4 year old thread really just got revived..... lol

Kutanks · 08-22-2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jonboy99

Hooker in the trunk?

I rarely have my backend break loose but I have a subwoofer in the trunk

guybo · 08-22-2017, 04:40 PM

the diff in a twin allows for small amounts of slip then locks up when too much slip happens. So it Limits the Slip of the Differential. It's not a mechanical LSD, it is a Torque Sensing diff. Does the same thing. Ours is better for drifting because it locks up pretty quick which is what you want when you get sideways.

fika84 · 08-22-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo

the diff in a twin allows for small amounts of slip then locks up when too much slip happens. So it Limits the Slip of the Differential. It's not a mechanical LSD, it is a Torque Sensing diff. Does the same thing. Ours is better for drifting because it locks up pretty quick which is what you want when you get sideways.

I guess the biggest difference really between them is what happens when one wheel lifts. That's when the Torsen fails.

paulca · 08-25-2017, 08:48 AM

On the "pull the handbrake" thing for 3-wheeling.

I thought the 2012 FRS/GT86/BRZ had the e-diff function with the VSC pinging to stop the wheel spinning causing torque to transfer over to the other wheel on the ground.

However I remember getting stuck as one back wheel was up against a large clump of grass and it alone spun up.

It definitely says in the 2017 (UK spec) car that e-diff is available in FULL and TRACK modes with TC on or OFF, but disabled with VSC/TR fully off (non-pedal dance mode).

This suggests the 2017 has both ATB and ABS diff function combined. Does that make it semantically superior to either Clutch or ATB alone?

Tcoat · 08-25-2017, 01:55 PM

OK I resisted as long as I could.

meadowz06 · 08-25-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Don't quote me, I don't need the lesson.

I was simply commenting on the puritan or pedantic viewpoint of some.

You may not have wanted a lesson, but you got one!

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08-25-2017, 08:48 AM	#68
paulca Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Toyota GT86 Coupe Red (UK) Location: United Kingdom Posts: 554 Thanks: 20 Thanked 291 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	On the "pull the handbrake" thing for 3-wheeling. I thought the 2012 FRS/GT86/BRZ had the e-diff function with the VSC pinging to stop the wheel spinning causing torque to transfer over to the other wheel on the ground. However I remember getting stuck as one back wheel was up against a large clump of grass and it alone spun up. It definitely says in the 2017 (UK spec) car that e-diff is available in FULL and TRACK modes with TC on or OFF, but disabled with VSC/TR fully off (non-pedal dance mode). This suggests the 2017 has both ATB and ABS diff function combined. Does that make it semantically superior to either Clutch or ATB alone? __________________ Trunk = Boot \| Hood = Bonnet \| Sidewalk = Pavement \| Transmission = Gearbox \| Stick/shifter = Gear knob/stick \| E-brake = handbrake \| Windshield = Windscreen \| Turn signal = Indicator

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Manic Is not fast. Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 Whiteout M/T Location: SoCal Posts: 521 Thanks: 208 Thanked 473 Times in 198 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Obvious troll wasn't obvious enough

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EddieZ2 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: NY Posts: 36 Thanks: 2 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Real great discussion on differentials. What I want to know is what does everybody use to keep the rear wheels on the ground to help keep from spinning. I'm finding every time I'm pushing it my inside rear wheel is breaking free and spinning. I have great tires and a stock suspension. The front end is tight. Just the rear wants to lift. Not thinking sway bars. Maybe stunt tower brace? Suggestions?

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guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the diff in a twin allows for small amounts of slip then locks up when too much slip happens. So it Limits the Slip of the Differential. It's not a mechanical LSD, it is a Torque Sensing diff. Does the same thing. Ours is better for drifting because it locks up pretty quick which is what you want when you get sideways.

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